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	<title>Comments on: Who, really, is inciting Americans to violence today?  Hint:  Even Fox News anchor Shepard Smith is worried about them.</title>
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		<title>By: Asteroid Miner</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/15/who-really-is-inciting-americans-to-violence-today-even-foxnews-anchor-shepard-smith/#comment-76967</link>
		<dc:creator>Asteroid Miner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a connection between climate change and violence already?   Violence is expected when civilization collapses.   Maybe this is a precursor to that violence.   Nature abhors infinite derivatives.   Therefore, the violence can&#039;t start suddenly at the moment of collapse?   Things are going badly, but most people are unaware of the cause [global warming], so they look for scapegoats?   Joe, can you make the connection?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a connection between climate change and violence already?   Violence is expected when civilization collapses.   Maybe this is a precursor to that violence.   Nature abhors infinite derivatives.   Therefore, the violence can&#8217;t start suddenly at the moment of collapse?   Things are going badly, but most people are unaware of the cause [global warming], so they look for scapegoats?   Joe, can you make the connection?</p>
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		<title>By: buberfah</title>
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		<dc:creator>buberfah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it is time for a campaign to boycott the corporations who advertise on these networks.  It the hate-mongers start losing money for the networks they might find themselves off the air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it is time for a campaign to boycott the corporations who advertise on these networks.  It the hate-mongers start losing money for the networks they might find themselves off the air.</p>
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		<title>By: barbiplease</title>
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		<dc:creator>barbiplease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it unusual that the very same topic posted here today was one that I also happened to blog about today:


&lt;a href=&quot;http://integrallife.com/member/barbi-hammond/blog/we-need-new-form-statement-being-truth-eteology&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Being-In-Truth&lt;/a&gt;

It was inspired by a recent experience of making a valid comparison between two forms of deniers--Holocaust deniers and climate change deniers (having never done that before but simply making an observation)--after which I was accused of being an &quot;eco-fascist&quot; by a commentator for mentioning Holocaust deniers and climate change deniers in the same sentence.

Is it fascist to state what is true?  I think not.

Denial is not merely a &quot;rejection&quot;: it is a rejection of truth.

I reject the notion that a green monkey is currently clinging to the back of my shirt.  But this rejection would not justify others to accuse me of being in &quot;denial&quot; of it because they know that my rejection is a rejection of falsehood: not a rejection of truth.  That is why climate change deniers and Holocaust deniers are a valid comparison to make but differ from those who are being-in-truth--for they are &quot;being-in-falsehood.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it unusual that the very same topic posted here today was one that I also happened to blog about today:</p>
<p><a href="http://integrallife.com/member/barbi-hammond/blog/we-need-new-form-statement-being-truth-eteology" rel="nofollow">Being-In-Truth</a></p>
<p>It was inspired by a recent experience of making a valid comparison between two forms of deniers&#8211;Holocaust deniers and climate change deniers (having never done that before but simply making an observation)&#8211;after which I was accused of being an &#8220;eco-fascist&#8221; by a commentator for mentioning Holocaust deniers and climate change deniers in the same sentence.</p>
<p>Is it fascist to state what is true?  I think not.</p>
<p>Denial is not merely a &#8220;rejection&#8221;: it is a rejection of truth.</p>
<p>I reject the notion that a green monkey is currently clinging to the back of my shirt.  But this rejection would not justify others to accuse me of being in &#8220;denial&#8221; of it because they know that my rejection is a rejection of falsehood: not a rejection of truth.  That is why climate change deniers and Holocaust deniers are a valid comparison to make but differ from those who are being-in-truth&#8211;for they are &#8220;being-in-falsehood.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Covert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Covert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SamB,

Do you seriously believe we&#039;re going to fall for this BS. This is a swift boat free zone. McCain has already said that he doesn&#039;t care about a washed-up terrorist and his wife.

Here&#039;s what factecheck.org said about charges by McCain that Obama had lied about relations with Ayers, &quot;We find McCain&#039;s accusation that Obama &quot;lied&quot; to be groundless. It is true that recently released records show half a dozen or so more meetings between the two men than were previously known, but Obama never denied working with Ayers.&quot;

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html

As for &#039;Palin&#039; around with terrorists&#039; (no pun intended) you could also draw that conclusion with Walter Annenberg, a Republican, who funded  the education initiative, Chicago Annenberg Challenge, that Bill Ayers served on.

Oh, one more thing. John McCain had a private meeting in 1985 with Chile&#039;s dictator Augusto Pinochet writes John Dinges at the Huffington Post. Now General Pinochet ran a terrorist campaign back in the 70&#039;s called Operation Condor and his terrorist hit squad assassinated the former Chilean Defense Minister and ambassador to the US Orlando Lettelier and his assistant Ronnie Moffit, an American, on embassy row in 1976. Now whose trying to conceal his associations with sponsors of terror.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-dinges/mccain-meets-a-bloody-dic_b_137422.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SamB,</p>
<p>Do you seriously believe we&#8217;re going to fall for this BS. This is a swift boat free zone. McCain has already said that he doesn&#8217;t care about a washed-up terrorist and his wife.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what factecheck.org said about charges by McCain that Obama had lied about relations with Ayers, &#8220;We find McCain&#8217;s accusation that Obama &#8220;lied&#8221; to be groundless. It is true that recently released records show half a dozen or so more meetings between the two men than were previously known, but Obama never denied working with Ayers.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.factcheck.org/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>elections-2008/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html</a></p>
<p>As for &#8216;Palin&#8217; around with terrorists&#8217; (no pun intended) you could also draw that conclusion with Walter Annenberg, a Republican, who funded  the education initiative, Chicago Annenberg Challenge, that Bill Ayers served on.</p>
<p>Oh, one more thing. John McCain had a private meeting in 1985 with Chile&#8217;s dictator Augusto Pinochet writes John Dinges at the Huffington Post. Now General Pinochet ran a terrorist campaign back in the 70&#8217;s called Operation Condor and his terrorist hit squad assassinated the former Chilean Defense Minister and ambassador to the US Orlando Lettelier and his assistant Ronnie Moffit, an American, on embassy row in 1976. Now whose trying to conceal his associations with sponsors of terror.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-dinges/mccain-meets-a-bloody-dic_b_137422.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>john-dinges/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>mccain-meets-a-bloody-dic_b_137422.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Shapiro</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/15/who-really-is-inciting-americans-to-violence-today-even-foxnews-anchor-shepard-smith/#comment-75951</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Shapiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is one man with complete responsibility for the tone and content at Fox News.  That man is the owner, Rupert Murdoch.

Rupert Murdoch is fomenting hatred of Americans for other Americans.  Rupert Murdoch is encouraging his viewers to hate, and to kill.

His advertisers should pause.  And he should stop what he is doing to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one man with complete responsibility for the tone and content at Fox News.  That man is the owner, Rupert Murdoch.</p>
<p>Rupert Murdoch is fomenting hatred of Americans for other Americans.  Rupert Murdoch is encouraging his viewers to hate, and to kill.</p>
<p>His advertisers should pause.  And he should stop what he is doing to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Gail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh the bitterz, a source of endless comic relief (unless you happen to be a doctor performing legal abortions, or a Holocaust Museum security guard):

http://wonkette.com/409162/your-latest-racist-anti-obama-gop-facebook-outrage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh the bitterz, a source of endless comic relief (unless you happen to be a doctor performing legal abortions, or a Holocaust Museum security guard):</p>
<p><a href="http://wonkette.com/409162/your-latest-racist-anti-obama-gop-facebook-outrage" rel="nofollow">http://wonkette.com/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>409162/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>your-latest-racist-anti-obama-gop-facebook-outrage</a></p>
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		<title>By: SamB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t new.  Who was the activist in the &quot;weathermen&quot;?  How ironic.  We are told he wrote Obama&#039;s bibliography.  

I don&#039;t care about Mr. Ayers who, on Sept. 11, 2001, said he wished he&#039;d have bombed more,&quot; McCain said, while explaining that what really matters is that Obama hasn&#039;t been forthcoming about his association with Ayers.

Ayers admits to having bombed a number of government buildings during his days with the radical Weather Underground. The quote McCain referred to was Ayers teling a newspaper reporter, &quot;I don&#039;t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn&#039;t do enough.&quot;

I am pro life and find these terrorists are appaling.  Michelle Obama Reported to B Dohrn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t new.  Who was the activist in the &#8220;weathermen&#8221;?  How ironic.  We are told he wrote Obama&#8217;s bibliography.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care about Mr. Ayers who, on Sept. 11, 2001, said he wished he&#8217;d have bombed more,&#8221; McCain said, while explaining that what really matters is that Obama hasn&#8217;t been forthcoming about his association with Ayers.</p>
<p>Ayers admits to having bombed a number of government buildings during his days with the radical Weather Underground. The quote McCain referred to was Ayers teling a newspaper reporter, &#8220;I don&#8217;t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn&#8217;t do enough.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am pro life and find these terrorists are appaling.  Michelle Obama Reported to B Dohrn.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little late for second thoughts on this. After 12 years of broadcasting demagoguery, agenda-driven lies, blatant propaganda and pure hate masquerading as &quot;opinion&quot;, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, The National Review and others -- not to mention thousands of websites -- have created a permanent, self-perpetuating under class of nutballs who believe anything is acceptable if it furthers their own self-defined Greater Cause. For the people who have encouraged this kind of thinking for over 10 years to suddenly now start worrying about it now is kind of like the captain of the Titantic standing on the deck as the bow is going down and saying to his first mate, &quot;Maybe we should have been a little more careful.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little late for second thoughts on this. After 12 years of broadcasting demagoguery, agenda-driven lies, blatant propaganda and pure hate masquerading as &#8220;opinion&#8221;, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, The National Review and others &#8212; not to mention thousands of websites &#8212; have created a permanent, self-perpetuating under class of nutballs who believe anything is acceptable if it furthers their own self-defined Greater Cause. For the people who have encouraged this kind of thinking for over 10 years to suddenly now start worrying about it now is kind of like the captain of the Titantic standing on the deck as the bow is going down and saying to his first mate, &#8220;Maybe we should have been a little more careful.&#8221;</p>
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