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		<title>By: David Slesinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Slesinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Applause for Dr. Hansen&#039;s decision to move to civil disobedience.

 I posted Joe Romm asking for issues related advice since I expect to be the first person to serve time for a civil disobedience protesting about global warming. He suggested I weigh in here.

I was arrested with 42 others on 4/20/09 at the protest in Charlotte, NC against the building of the Cliffside Coal plant.

I post now urging activists to at least consider Gandhian technique in civil disobedience. It is not for everyone, but Gandhi ALWAYS pleaded guilty, feeling jail time was a good spiritual experience. 

American practitioners of nonviolent civil disobedience generally take a different tack. They plead not guilty, want their day in court, putting a greater priority on mainstream media publicity. Even those who commit felonies generally seek mercy from the court.

Gandhi never sought mercy.

While I&#039;ve never met anyone who regularly practices civil disobedience who wasn&#039;t an admirable person, I believe Gandhi goes further than just eschewing hatred. Gandhi actually was concerned with the spiritual experience of his adversaries.

Nearly all activists primarily are guilty of grandstanding, the act of increasing the distance between themselves and their adversaries by appealing solely to one&#039;s supporters. Gandhi was different. He felt suffering was an important element in touching the hearts of one&#039;s adversaries. 

I have MANY friends who disagree with my position on global warming. I want their descendants to survive and live happy lives as much as anyone. We need to do more than win at policy making. We need to reach out and dialogue with our adversaries. People need to think twice before they buy a gasguzzler.

I expect to serve a short period for my CD in NC. The courts don&#039;t like to fill their jails with non-fearsome people. I expect a refusal to pay court cost will be sufficient to generate a sentence.

I gave this talk in Dr King’s home town of Atlanta at the US Social Forum in June of 2007 entitled, “Nonviolent resistance in the US can be practiced with greater strength”
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3388009813098407884

A transcript will be produced soon.

I&#039;m eager to correspond with anyone on this matter. 443-682-8725
davidslesinger@yahoo.com

I am active on other matters where followers of this blog might disagree. I don&#039;t require or expect you good people to necessarily engage me on those issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Applause for Dr. Hansen&#8217;s decision to move to civil disobedience.</p>
<p> I posted Joe Romm asking for issues related advice since I expect to be the first person to serve time for a civil disobedience protesting about global warming. He suggested I weigh in here.</p>
<p>I was arrested with 42 others on 4/20/09 at the protest in Charlotte, NC against the building of the Cliffside Coal plant.</p>
<p>I post now urging activists to at least consider Gandhian technique in civil disobedience. It is not for everyone, but Gandhi ALWAYS pleaded guilty, feeling jail time was a good spiritual experience. </p>
<p>American practitioners of nonviolent civil disobedience generally take a different tack. They plead not guilty, want their day in court, putting a greater priority on mainstream media publicity. Even those who commit felonies generally seek mercy from the court.</p>
<p>Gandhi never sought mercy.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;ve never met anyone who regularly practices civil disobedience who wasn&#8217;t an admirable person, I believe Gandhi goes further than just eschewing hatred. Gandhi actually was concerned with the spiritual experience of his adversaries.</p>
<p>Nearly all activists primarily are guilty of grandstanding, the act of increasing the distance between themselves and their adversaries by appealing solely to one&#8217;s supporters. Gandhi was different. He felt suffering was an important element in touching the hearts of one&#8217;s adversaries. </p>
<p>I have MANY friends who disagree with my position on global warming. I want their descendants to survive and live happy lives as much as anyone. We need to do more than win at policy making. We need to reach out and dialogue with our adversaries. People need to think twice before they buy a gasguzzler.</p>
<p>I expect to serve a short period for my CD in NC. The courts don&#8217;t like to fill their jails with non-fearsome people. I expect a refusal to pay court cost will be sufficient to generate a sentence.</p>
<p>I gave this talk in Dr King’s home town of Atlanta at the US Social Forum in June of 2007 entitled, “Nonviolent resistance in the US can be practiced with greater strength”<br />
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3388009813098407884" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>videoplay?docid=-3388009813098407884</a></p>
<p>A transcript will be produced soon.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m eager to correspond with anyone on this matter. 443-682-8725<br />
<a href="mailto:davidslesinger@yahoo.com">davidslesinger@yahoo.com</a></p>
<p>I am active on other matters where followers of this blog might disagree. I don&#8217;t require or expect you good people to necessarily engage me on those issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Modesty</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/23/james-hansen-top-us-climate-scientists-arrested-protest-on-mountaintop-removal/#comment-83907</link>
		<dc:creator>Modesty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At another event last year, Hansen responded to a similar question (&quot;we know this is real, but what should we do, how should we change behaviors?...&quot;). His answer was unequivocal, the solution will require something altogether different than a focus on individual energy use and emissions: 

1. individuals have to influence the democratic process; 
2. individuals have to be much more politically active; 
3. we simply have to change enough elected officials to get the job done. 

Let your Rep know you expect him/her to work to strengthen ACES, to pass ACES, to strengthen US climate policy overall, to abolish the destruction of lives and livelihoods for fossil fuel profits for special interests, and to make this a top priority.

http://www.1sky.org/aces-house-action

In &quot;An Inconvenient Truth,&quot; Gore pointed out that all that&#039;s missing is the political will.  We can let fossil fuel special interests generate political (ill)will, or people--individuals--can follow Hansen&#039;s advice and act as citizens to &quot;influence the democratic process.&quot; (And then remind friends and family, too.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At another event last year, Hansen responded to a similar question (&#8221;we know this is real, but what should we do, how should we change behaviors?&#8230;&#8221;). His answer was unequivocal, the solution will require something altogether different than a focus on individual energy use and emissions: </p>
<p>1. individuals have to influence the democratic process;<br />
2. individuals have to be much more politically active;<br />
3. we simply have to change enough elected officials to get the job done. </p>
<p>Let your Rep know you expect him/her to work to strengthen ACES, to pass ACES, to strengthen US climate policy overall, to abolish the destruction of lives and livelihoods for fossil fuel profits for special interests, and to make this a top priority.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.1sky.org/aces-house-action" rel="nofollow">http://www.1sky.org/aces-house-action</a></p>
<p>In &#8220;An Inconvenient Truth,&#8221; Gore pointed out that all that&#8217;s missing is the political will.  We can let fossil fuel special interests generate political (ill)will, or people&#8211;individuals&#8211;can follow Hansen&#8217;s advice and act as citizens to &#8220;influence the democratic process.&#8221; (And then remind friends and family, too.)</p>
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		<title>By: Morris</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/23/james-hansen-top-us-climate-scientists-arrested-protest-on-mountaintop-removal/#comment-83895</link>
		<dc:creator>Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of what Dr Hansen has done can be read about in this book:

http://www.mark-bowen.com/book_cs.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of what Dr Hansen has done can be read about in this book:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mark-bowen.com/book_cs.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mark-bowen.com/book_cs.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Morris</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/23/james-hansen-top-us-climate-scientists-arrested-protest-on-mountaintop-removal/#comment-83886</link>
		<dc:creator>Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Hansen was speaking at an event last year, and fielded the question &quot;what can I as individual do (to repsond to global warming)?&quot;

Hansen: &quot;do whatever you can do&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Hansen was speaking at an event last year, and fielded the question &#8220;what can I as individual do (to repsond to global warming)?&#8221;</p>
<p>Hansen: &#8220;do whatever you can do&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ecostew</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecostew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relative to Hansen, &quot;Undaunted Courage&quot; comes to mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relative to Hansen, &#8220;Undaunted Courage&#8221; comes to mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/23/james-hansen-top-us-climate-scientists-arrested-protest-on-mountaintop-removal/#comment-83689</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Massey CEO Don Blankenship is a weazel.  First he blusters about wanting to take Hansen out back and beat the debate out of him, then when Hansen takes him on, the coal &quot;king&quot; suddenly has to go out of town.   He did offer to have Hansen stay three extra days so he could debate him on a conservative local TV station that he (Blankenship) is allegedly part owner in....one activist commented she thought the system was &quot;rigged&quot; --- better not to have the debate at all, then.   Sleazy Weazel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Massey CEO Don Blankenship is a weazel.  First he blusters about wanting to take Hansen out back and beat the debate out of him, then when Hansen takes him on, the coal &#8220;king&#8221; suddenly has to go out of town.   He did offer to have Hansen stay three extra days so he could debate him on a conservative local TV station that he (Blankenship) is allegedly part owner in&#8230;.one activist commented she thought the system was &#8220;rigged&#8221; &#8212; better not to have the debate at all, then.   Sleazy Weazel!</p>
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		<title>By: Gail D</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/23/james-hansen-top-us-climate-scientists-arrested-protest-on-mountaintop-removal/#comment-83661</link>
		<dc:creator>Gail D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo to those who have the wisdom, the passion and the gumption to put themselves on the line in advancing a better world. We owe you a debt of gratitude! May your actions inspire many others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo to those who have the wisdom, the passion and the gumption to put themselves on the line in advancing a better world. We owe you a debt of gratitude! May your actions inspire many others.</p>
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		<title>By: alec</title>
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		<dc:creator>alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dr. Hansen,
Thank you for standing up for what is right. Thank you for making us all awareness is the most important bill on the agenda today. You actions have inspired me to send this out to my contacts, and write a letter to my congressmen. This was posted previously, but an excellent short video about mountaintop removal can be found here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPixjCneseE.
spread the word,
-alec</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dr. Hansen,<br />
Thank you for standing up for what is right. Thank you for making us all awareness is the most important bill on the agenda today. You actions have inspired me to send this out to my contacts, and write a letter to my congressmen. This was posted previously, but an excellent short video about mountaintop removal can be found here <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPixjCneseE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPixjCneseE</a>.<br />
spread the word,<br />
-alec</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/23/james-hansen-top-us-climate-scientists-arrested-protest-on-mountaintop-removal/#comment-83643</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Dorothy says, James Hansen is a hero to the world.  His knowledge, inspiration and actions reach well beyond the borders of the United States.

Many thanks to James Hansen, Daryl Hannah, Michael Brune and the others that joined in this protest.  At the slow rate of progress that both the American and Canadian governments are making on addressing climate change, protects like this look to possibly be the only way of effecting substantial action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Dorothy says, James Hansen is a hero to the world.  His knowledge, inspiration and actions reach well beyond the borders of the United States.</p>
<p>Many thanks to James Hansen, Daryl Hannah, Michael Brune and the others that joined in this protest.  At the slow rate of progress that both the American and Canadian governments are making on addressing climate change, protects like this look to possibly be the only way of effecting substantial action.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

It looks like Jim Hansen is offering to participate in a public discussion today, but not tomorrow night as Blankenship is proposing. From the AP this afternoon: 

Massey Energy Calls Protest Pointless (1:05 p.m.)

Posted: June 24, 2009 01:06 PM

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) - Virginia-based coal producer Massey Energy&#039;s chief executive is calling the latest arrests of protesters at one of the company&#039;s operations pointless.

Don Blankenship said Wednesday the arrests of actress Daryl Hannah, NASA scientist James Hansen and 29 others a day earlier do nothing to further the debate about coal mining. Blankenship says he&#039;d rather debate Hansen and has accepted an offer from West Virginia Media to air a debate Thursday.

Hansen, however, has offered to participate in a public discussion Wednesday, but not an adversarial debate.

Hansen, Hannah and others were cited for impeding traffic and obstructing an officer after they blocked a road near a Massey processing plant in southern West Virginia. Their complaints centered on mountaintop removal, which involves blasting away ridgetops.

(Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>It looks like Jim Hansen is offering to participate in a public discussion today, but not tomorrow night as Blankenship is proposing. From the AP this afternoon: </p>
<p>Massey Energy Calls Protest Pointless (1:05 p.m.)</p>
<p>Posted: June 24, 2009 01:06 PM</p>
<p>CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) &#8211; Virginia-based coal producer Massey Energy&#8217;s chief executive is calling the latest arrests of protesters at one of the company&#8217;s operations pointless.</p>
<p>Don Blankenship said Wednesday the arrests of actress Daryl Hannah, NASA scientist James Hansen and 29 others a day earlier do nothing to further the debate about coal mining. Blankenship says he&#8217;d rather debate Hansen and has accepted an offer from West Virginia Media to air a debate Thursday.</p>
<p>Hansen, however, has offered to participate in a public discussion Wednesday, but not an adversarial debate.</p>
<p>Hansen, Hannah and others were cited for impeding traffic and obstructing an officer after they blocked a road near a Massey processing plant in southern West Virginia. Their complaints centered on mountaintop removal, which involves blasting away ridgetops.</p>
<p>(Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)</p>
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