Comments on: U.S. Open at Bethpage Black hit by “global warming type” of record rainfall — Tiger Woods falls victim to a bad draw and bad putting

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:38:37 +0000

Hi just thought you might like to know we have had unprecedented rainfall in Bavaria this summer.

Link here

http://www.thelocal.de/ national/ 20090706-20413.html?__utma=1.2221331595973393700.1242068679.1242068679.1242068679.1&__utmb=196863657.2.10.1247052249&__utmc=196863657&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1243030697.1.3.utmcsr=google|utmccn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=toytown%2520germany&__utmv=-&__utmk=28214844

By: SteveA@tul

SteveA@tul — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:06:19 +0000

Seems to be a lot of smart people on this blog. Question… Looking at the Vostok ice cores, it appears the temp and CO2 follow each other. Since there was no significant human population to cause the increase in CO2 those hundreds of thousands of years ago, then didn’t the temperature rise by itself, with the CO2 rising in response? If so, could the CO2 rise we see now be primarily from the “momentum” of the prolonged warm period we are currently experiencing? (The Vostok data indicates we have remained warm longer than in the previous three warming periods.)

By: Cardin Drake

Cardin Drake — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:18:26 +0000

If the climate debate is settled, why can’t the experts even agree on what the temperature is today?
According to satellite (UAH) temperatures, May ranked 16th out of the last 31. According to surface measurement, (GISS) May was the 5th warmest out of the last 130 years. This is an incredible discrepancy. Were May temperatures near-normal, or not? You would think we could at least settle that.

By: Cardin Drake

Cardin Drake — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:34:05 +0000

May’s temperature anomaly world-wide was plus .05. How could the rain be a global warming event, when temperatures are normal?

[JR: Wrong and wrong. May was the 4th warmest on record! And human-caused climate change is about much more than warming. It is about a major change in the hydrological cycle, among other things.]

By: GeneB_NoAGW

GeneB_NoAGW — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:46:04 +0000

dhogaza, when you wrote this:

2. Exposure to sarin at a level of 0.1 ppm, about 1/3000th the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere.

Please don’t come back until *after* you’ve tried the experiment.

Were you trying to be funny?

CO2 isn’t a poison.

You’re an idiot.

By: Jonas Grumby

Jonas Grumby — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:37:30 +0000

I agree, GeneB, but not many of these blind followers care about data.

Even if the earth cooled for 50 years, they would continue to adjust their models and claim that we need to save the planet!

There are people in this world who must create crises, that they may solve them and perpetuate their sense of importance. It’s sad. I get the feeling that their lives are empty.

By: GeneB_NoAGW

GeneB_NoAGW — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:32:46 +0000

Um… There hasn’t been any global warming over the last decade. The earth has cooled (satellite readings).

But if you look at ground based readings, it shows a rise in earth’s temperature. But, there are major problems with these ground based stations:

1) Most don’t conform to the prescribed standards — they are near air conditioners, are on pavement, etc.

2) There are thousands from the north wilderness areas that are now off-line and are no longer contributing to the mix.

The only way to get a “true” measure of the Earth’s temperature is from satellites.

By: Pilot

Pilot — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:16:54 +0000

Who is being misled here?
Whichever way you cut it – there is a problem with global warming. Based on empirical evidence ( looking out of the window ) the amount of warming in the last decade is easily explained by natural variation.
Gail – The ski resorts, which were all supposedly doomed, have had the best conditions in living memory in the last 12 months. This was true for both Europe and North America.
Aaron. The Caitlin expedition departed to the North Pole in order to prove Arctic warming. They never came within 400 miles of it. All of their equipment failed because of extreme cold weather.
Aaron your graph was excellent. – So is http://nsidc.org/ images/ arcticseaicenews/ 20090603_Figure2.png
This shows that the arctic sea ice was within 2 S/D of the 30 year average for the entire winter.
If we intend to cripple the economies of the entire western world and throw millions out of work – we need better evidence.

By: PaulK

PaulK — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:15:55 +0000

dhogaza,

Insurance companies make their money on the need to assuage real and perceived risk. Their profits come from overestimating those risks.

Gail,

For the three decades between 1975 and 2005, houses in my neighborhood on the South Side of Chicago appreciated at an average rate of 8% per year.

Consider also the building boom, especially in coastal areas, of the last twenty years and how many more insured properties were created.

By: Gail

Gail — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:00:59 +0000

PaulK, I would like to know whether constant dollars were used, as well.

But my point was, whether they were or not, the first reference WAS to 10% PER YEAR increase for insurance claims, not per decade, and yes, housing exploded but I think not by 10% per year for DECADES. And we all know what an unsustainable bubble real estate was, so assuming your “my house” was a metaphor for “costs rising in general” it’s not a terribly good refutation now is it?

Well, unless you want to use health care costs in the US…