Comments on: House Dems, Obama, and Gore lobby last batch of fence-sitters; Ohio Democrats wriggle on the fence as House vote approaches http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/25/house-dems-obama-gore-lobby-house-waxman-markey-vote/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:22:22 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Mossy http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/25/house-dems-obama-gore-lobby-house-waxman-markey-vote/#comment-84867 Mossy Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:56:30 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=8357#comment-84867 Excuse me, but I am originally from OH, and I go crazy when I read information like this. Ohioans are resposible for voting Bush into office twice. If they also succeed in bringing down ACES with their ignorance, I think Ohio should be forced to absorb all the environmental refugees of the Maldives, and Lake Erie should be drained to provide water for the parched southwest. Don't Ohioans understand that their beloved maple trees will soon be unable to survive climate change? Of course they don't; the misinformation campaign has been hugely successful in Ohio. To truly have a democracy, we must have an informed public. This has not happened with global warming, and the politicians themselves have not even studied the issue enough to undetrand it. If they did, they would schedule a press conference and explain to their electorate that they must vote for this bill in order to try to save humanity. This is what leadership is all about. I Excuse me, but I am originally from OH, and I go crazy when I read information like this.

Ohioans are resposible for voting Bush into office twice. If they also succeed in bringing down ACES with their ignorance, I think Ohio should be forced to absorb all the environmental refugees of the Maldives, and Lake Erie should be drained to provide water for the parched southwest.

Don’t Ohioans understand that their beloved maple trees will soon be unable to survive climate change? Of course they don’t; the misinformation campaign has been hugely successful in Ohio. To truly have a democracy, we must have an informed public. This has not happened with global warming, and the politicians themselves have not even studied the issue enough to undetrand it. If they did, they would schedule a press conference and explain to their electorate that they must vote for this bill in order to try to save humanity.

This is what leadership is all about.

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]]> By: Albert http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/25/house-dems-obama-gore-lobby-house-waxman-markey-vote/#comment-84542 Albert Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:10:03 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=8357#comment-84542 “It’s complicated. You’ve got to be able to explain this in 30 seconds to a minute with folks back home for them to feel comfortable with it. I haven’t been able to figure that out yet.” How about, "I voted to save the world, rather than destroy it"? “It’s complicated. You’ve got to be able to explain this in 30 seconds to a minute with folks back home for them to feel comfortable with it. I haven’t been able to figure that out yet.”

How about, “I voted to save the world, rather than destroy it”?

]]> By: Enviroleader http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/25/house-dems-obama-gore-lobby-house-waxman-markey-vote/#comment-84509 Enviroleader Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:36:43 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=8357#comment-84509 What you can't do is make out a path to passage without Senator Sherrod Brown. But that's the next hurdle. And we need to strengthen the bill. What you can’t do is make out a path to passage without Senator Sherrod Brown. But that’s the next hurdle. And we need to strengthen the bill.

]]> By: Enviroleader http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/25/house-dems-obama-gore-lobby-house-waxman-markey-vote/#comment-84504 Enviroleader Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:32:13 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=8357#comment-84504 I think we'll get yes votes from several of the Ohio Dems. Mary Jo Kilroy cares as much about environmental protection as anyone. Sutton voted very well in the committee votes. I think some of the others you name will come through. Ohio Dems have traditionally voted right on environmental issues. I think we’ll get yes votes from several of the Ohio Dems. Mary Jo Kilroy cares as much about environmental protection as anyone. Sutton voted very well in the committee votes. I think some of the others you name will come through. Ohio Dems have traditionally voted right on environmental issues.

]]> By: Rick Covert http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/25/house-dems-obama-gore-lobby-house-waxman-markey-vote/#comment-84340 Rick Covert Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:33:30 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=8357#comment-84340 Joe, So is the Waxman-Markey bill worth half a wedge? Al Green is my congressman and he is in Texas district 9 which covers a lot of the west side of Houston, the oil capitol of the world, so he'll be getting a call from me today. In reality most people on this side of town who work in the oil industry work in the nice clean offices and don't get their hands dirty in the refineries. So it will take some convincing to get him on board even though he is quite a progressive congressman. I'd give in a 97% rating for his votes on progressive issues and he gets peak oil and global warming. He's a smart guy open to reason. The Senate is a whole other ball game. Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, I think, can be counted on to vote no, for purely economic reasons. John Cornyn who ran during his campaign as being a non-partisan ;) politician has in fact been extremely partisan and it's a real safe bet he will vote no because this is Texas, the land of the pump jack, he is heavily tied to big oil and most importantly he will vote no for purely ideological reasons. Joe,

So is the Waxman-Markey bill worth half a wedge? Al Green is my congressman and he is in Texas district 9 which covers a lot of the west side of Houston, the oil capitol of the world, so he’ll be getting a call from me today. In reality most people on this side of town who work in the oil industry work in the nice clean offices and don’t get their hands dirty in the refineries. So it will take some convincing to get him on board even though he is quite a progressive congressman. I’d give in a 97% rating for his votes on progressive issues and he gets peak oil and global warming. He’s a smart guy open to reason.

The Senate is a whole other ball game. Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, I think, can be counted on to vote no, for purely economic reasons. John Cornyn who ran during his campaign as being a non-partisan ;) politician has in fact been extremely partisan and it’s a real safe bet he will vote no because this is Texas, the land of the pump jack, he is heavily tied to big oil and most importantly he will vote no for purely ideological reasons.

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