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	<title>Comments on: House GOP repeat in unison the petroleum industry falsehood that CBO finds the Waxman-Markey bill would raise gasoline prices 77 cents a gallon</title>
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		<title>By: David B. Benson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B. Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Steve&lt;/b&gt; --- No, scientists did no such thing.  Only journalists, interested in selling &quot;news&quot; magazines.

Check out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Revelle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Steve</b> &#8212; No, scientists did no such thing.  Only journalists, interested in selling &#8220;news&#8221; magazines.</p>
<p>Check out<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Revelle" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Revelle</a></p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren&#039;t we talking here about predictions or projections of future prices?  It seems a bit extreme to call someone&#039;s prediction a lie, for it suggests that you have absolute, certain knowledge about the future.  If you do, I&#039;d like to get some investing advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t we talking here about predictions or projections of future prices?  It seems a bit extreme to call someone&#8217;s prediction a lie, for it suggests that you have absolute, certain knowledge about the future.  If you do, I&#8217;d like to get some investing advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Leland Palmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leland Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Richard Pauli

&lt;blockquote&gt;Either they really do not believe the scientific projections, or they do know them and this is a desperate, vicious plunder before the demise. Again we have to decide: stupid or evil?  &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, any group that can persuade the U.S. government and the U.S. people to launch an invasion of the Middle East that is not in the interest of the majority of people in the country is not stupid.

Any group that can make and manage and perhaps conceal trillions of dollars worth of control of industrial wealth is definitely not stupid. 

They&#039;re definitely not stupid.

What does that leave?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Richard Pauli</p>
<blockquote><p>Either they really do not believe the scientific projections, or they do know them and this is a desperate, vicious plunder before the demise. Again we have to decide: stupid or evil?  </p></blockquote>
<p>Well, any group that can persuade the U.S. government and the U.S. people to launch an invasion of the Middle East that is not in the interest of the majority of people in the country is not stupid.</p>
<p>Any group that can make and manage and perhaps conceal trillions of dollars worth of control of industrial wealth is definitely not stupid. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re definitely not stupid.</p>
<p>What does that leave?</p>
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		<title>By: John Pearson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Pearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8120432.stm

here is the thing which will stall any worldwide agreement on climate action. the 3rd world will look to the west for suppport to help with environmental change which they can blame on the west, and the west wont want to pay. 
I travel widley with the oil business, and have seen first hand what is happening in the developing world. the worst place I have seen is Port Harcourt in Nigeria, a city of several millions (nobody has any idea how many people there actually are there). the city streets, which are no more than gaps between the buildings full of holes you could loose a bus in, are absolutley packed solid with cars. the reason for this is cheap petrol, the price of which is fixed by the government at 70 Nira a litre. there are around 150 Nira to the $US, so it works out arround $1.70 a gallon. the average condition of the cars could be described as scrap. the comlpete lack of any proper maintenance of these aging cars leaves them with emissions outputs probably hundreds of times what the manufacturer intended when they made them in the 80&#039;s and 90&#039;s. 
for any progress to be made this sort of thing must be stopped. there must be global agreement of enforced emissions controls on cars, and a fuel taxation shceme similar to europe. In the UK (and most of europe) we pay approx $6 per gallon, which makes us very careful about how we use our fuel. this attention to efficiency is what is needed in the US, the people need to accept that energy is expensive.</description>
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<p>here is the thing which will stall any worldwide agreement on climate action. the 3rd world will look to the west for suppport to help with environmental change which they can blame on the west, and the west wont want to pay.<br />
I travel widley with the oil business, and have seen first hand what is happening in the developing world. the worst place I have seen is Port Harcourt in Nigeria, a city of several millions (nobody has any idea how many people there actually are there). the city streets, which are no more than gaps between the buildings full of holes you could loose a bus in, are absolutley packed solid with cars. the reason for this is cheap petrol, the price of which is fixed by the government at 70 Nira a litre. there are around 150 Nira to the $US, so it works out arround $1.70 a gallon. the average condition of the cars could be described as scrap. the comlpete lack of any proper maintenance of these aging cars leaves them with emissions outputs probably hundreds of times what the manufacturer intended when they made them in the 80&#8217;s and 90&#8217;s.<br />
for any progress to be made this sort of thing must be stopped. there must be global agreement of enforced emissions controls on cars, and a fuel taxation shceme similar to europe. In the UK (and most of europe) we pay approx $6 per gallon, which makes us very careful about how we use our fuel. this attention to efficiency is what is needed in the US, the people need to accept that energy is expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 05:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could someone please explain the following: Back the late 70&#039;s scientists were warning of a impending Ice Age. 30 years later we are having a debate over global warming. Over the last 30 years we have passed numerous clean air acts, removing hundreds of billions tons of pollutants. So my questions are as follows: 

1) Is the air cleaner today than it was in 1970, 1980, 1990 and 2000?
2) What is the actually weight of the entire amtosphere? 
3) How much previous unused land in 1970 is now paved or developed?
4) How much CO2 is produced from every man, woman and child on this planet just from breathing?
5) Why is that CO2 is considered a greenhouse gas when water vapor is not?
6) Explain why yearly tree growth has increased over the last 20 years.
7) Please explain why the rates of glaucoma have increased 10 fold over the last 5 years?

I have no problem with energy conversation, I hate paying my gas and electric bills. But wouldn&#039;t be ironic that cleaner air legisaltion is actually the true cause of global warming</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could someone please explain the following: Back the late 70&#8217;s scientists were warning of a impending Ice Age. 30 years later we are having a debate over global warming. Over the last 30 years we have passed numerous clean air acts, removing hundreds of billions tons of pollutants. So my questions are as follows: </p>
<p>1) Is the air cleaner today than it was in 1970, 1980, 1990 and 2000?<br />
2) What is the actually weight of the entire amtosphere?<br />
3) How much previous unused land in 1970 is now paved or developed?<br />
4) How much CO2 is produced from every man, woman and child on this planet just from breathing?<br />
5) Why is that CO2 is considered a greenhouse gas when water vapor is not?<br />
6) Explain why yearly tree growth has increased over the last 20 years.<br />
7) Please explain why the rates of glaucoma have increased 10 fold over the last 5 years?</p>
<p>I have no problem with energy conversation, I hate paying my gas and electric bills. But wouldn&#8217;t be ironic that cleaner air legisaltion is actually the true cause of global warming</p>
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		<title>By: paulm</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phew! 

Now lets phase out those coal plants, like yesterday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phew! </p>
<p>Now lets phase out those coal plants, like yesterday!</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Covert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Covert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

The Reps not only think our attention span is short they think its only lasts two seconds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>The Reps not only think our attention span is short they think its only lasts two seconds.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Winter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This minor disruption over, the debate resumes. There is a full copy of the bill at the desk. It&#039;s in two parts: the latest 300 pages, and the rest, developed earlier. (Apparently the Republicans forgot that one of them was waving the 300-page portion earlier today while offering his comments.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This minor disruption over, the debate resumes. There is a full copy of the bill at the desk. It&#8217;s in two parts: the latest 300 pages, and the rest, developed earlier. (Apparently the Republicans forgot that one of them was waving the 300-page portion earlier today while offering his comments.)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Winter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s up with Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX)? He doesn&#039;t know where to get the latest 300-page addition to HR 2454. Told it was printed in the Rules Committee proceeding, he is still puzzled. Joe Barton comes to his rescue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s up with Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX)? He doesn&#8217;t know where to get the latest 300-page addition to HR 2454. Told it was printed in the Rules Committee proceeding, he is still puzzled. Joe Barton comes to his rescue.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuebing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yuebing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly, the Republicans don&#039;t want to make America&#039;s energy here at home from the sun and wind.  They would prefer to drag this country into false wars in the middle east, or give money to countries which hate us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, the Republicans don&#8217;t want to make America&#8217;s energy here at home from the sun and wind.  They would prefer to drag this country into false wars in the middle east, or give money to countries which hate us.</p>
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