Comments on: Doggett (D-TX) switches to supporting the bill after “listening to the flat earth society and the climate deniers, and some of the most inane arguments I have heard against refusing to act on this vital national security challenge.”

By: GeneB_NoAGW

GeneB_NoAGW — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:30:30 +0000

Charles Siegel says: Food will be much, much more expensive if we don’t control global warming and much of the world’s agricultural land turns into desert.

Um… We can’t control Global Warming. We can only adapt. But this “Climate” Bill WILL CAUSE FOOD TO BE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE.

By: GeneB_NoAGW

GeneB_NoAGW — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:32:24 +0000

BBHY said: While the cost of your coal may go up, the cost of the sunshine on my solar panels will remain the same under this legislation: free.

You can use your precious solar panels now — without this useless legislation.

this legislation will cause the cost of everything else to go up. And will cause jobs to leave the country. And will actually cause us to import more oil.

By: BBHY

BBHY — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:45:05 +0000

Ah yes, what a great argument from the conservatives: it’s too expensive to not destroy our environment.

“Only when the last tree has died,
the last river has been poisoned,
the last fish has been caught,
will we realize we can’t eat money”

BTW, what’s too expensive for you may not be too expensive for me. While the cost of your coal may go up, the cost of the sunshine on my solar panels will remain the same under this legislation: free.

By: Plainview

Plainview — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:03:41 +0000

Brian J.,

Regardless of climate change, should we just wait until fossil fuel reserves run dry to start trying to figure out how to produce alternative forms of energy on a mass scale? Yes the Earth is flat, evolution is just a theory, climate change isn’t happening, the free-market will fix everything, blah blah blah. Wake me up in a couple hundred years when conservatives figure out the Earth is round and want to have an actual debate.

By: Charles Siegel

Charles Siegel — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:57:30 +0000

Food will be much, much more expensive if we don’t control global warming and much of the world’s agricultural land turns into desert.

By: Gail

Gail — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:36:00 +0000

Thanks, lizardo – I’ll be giving Frelinghuysen an earful. Isn’t it cute his family sponsored this ginourmous arboretum named for themselves in Morristown, where all the trees are croaking thanks to climate change, and his obdurate worship of right-wing ideology!?

Sweet, Rodney!

By: lizardo

lizardo — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:09:42 +0000

Roll call vote is here (names and party affiliation but they only give state if there are 2 reps with same last name.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll477.xml

Great statement by Lloyd Doggett.

By: Gail

Gail — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:51:57 +0000

Oh Brian, Brian. Food and energy and everything dependent on energy are going to get horrifically expensive anyway, because of Peak Oil. Our easy days are behind us. Time for people to roll up their sleeves and learn how to plant potatoes.

Jim Beacon – or anyone – can we get a list of those filthy Democrats in name only who voted against this bill? We should bury them with our displeasure and run ads warning them that if they can’t behave like Democrats they will face outside dollars funding their progressive opponents in their reelection campaigns (oh and that goes for public option health care too).

By: John Hollenberg

John Hollenberg — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:49:26 +0000

> you’ll be suffering just like we will

Yes, but we will be suffering somewhat less as a result of this bill passing, since it is a start on tackling the climate change problem, which will affect everyone.

By: Brian J.

Brian J. — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:43:54 +0000

I am facing reality. The entire point of W-M is to raise the price of energy generated through carbon. Therefore, prices on fuels, electricity generated through coal and natural gas, and anything dependent on fuel or energy (that is, everything) will rise.

There’s no point in phony CBO analyses assuming reabtes that don’t exist, no more fantasies about how technology will magically find new non-carbon-using energy sources. Because those things won’t happpen, and you know it. You won, we lost, and you’ll soon be trying to make life miserable (or shorter) for us all. Congratulations.

Oh, and unless Obama’s got your name in his Rolodex, you’ll be suffering just like we will, as a sacrifice to Gaia. Nice jorb.