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	<title>Comments on: Honey, I shrunk the GOP, Part 1:  Conservatives vow to purge all members who support clean energy or science-based policy</title>
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		<title>By: Pangolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pangolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republicans have lost touch with reality so badly nobody would be surprised if Sara Palin showed up on Fox News in pigtails and red sequin shoes and announced that she was off to see the wizard, or Newt Gingrich; whatever. There ain&#039;t no yellow brick road and the door back to the oil-for-debt economy is closed forever. 

If you want real crazy look at the GOP policies that relate to biology. 

Why not expel anybody with any reference to real science? They&#039;ve already given up on any touchstone connecting them to physical reality. The futility of magical thinking is why most of the human raced embraced technology and never looked back. Now it&#039;s time for us to embrace real science. We get climate science right or we go back to digging for sweet potatoes with a fire hardened stick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republicans have lost touch with reality so badly nobody would be surprised if Sara Palin showed up on Fox News in pigtails and red sequin shoes and announced that she was off to see the wizard, or Newt Gingrich; whatever. There ain&#8217;t no yellow brick road and the door back to the oil-for-debt economy is closed forever. </p>
<p>If you want real crazy look at the GOP policies that relate to biology. </p>
<p>Why not expel anybody with any reference to real science? They&#8217;ve already given up on any touchstone connecting them to physical reality. The futility of magical thinking is why most of the human raced embraced technology and never looked back. Now it&#8217;s time for us to embrace real science. We get climate science right or we go back to digging for sweet potatoes with a fire hardened stick.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care if they stay or not. If the Republicans oust them for far more conservative right-wing nutjobs in the their primaries, the same thing will happen in 2010 as happened in 2006 and 2008 -- the seat will switch to Democrats in the general election. If these 8 want to stay in office, maybe they should take a look at which party really encompasses their viewpoints and pull Arlen Spectors.

Hopefully the Republicans purge themselves into irrelevence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care if they stay or not. If the Republicans oust them for far more conservative right-wing nutjobs in the their primaries, the same thing will happen in 2010 as happened in 2006 and 2008 &#8212; the seat will switch to Democrats in the general election. If these 8 want to stay in office, maybe they should take a look at which party really encompasses their viewpoints and pull Arlen Spectors.</p>
<p>Hopefully the Republicans purge themselves into irrelevence.</p>
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		<title>By: Bud Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe!

Well done. I think that without Climate Progress steadily beating the drum, both for the size of the problem and for the necessity for THIS bill (not a more perfect one), NOW (not when it was too late), ACES would have failed. Good one, as they say in Britain.

Cheers,

Bud Man</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe!</p>
<p>Well done. I think that without Climate Progress steadily beating the drum, both for the size of the problem and for the necessity for THIS bill (not a more perfect one), NOW (not when it was too late), ACES would have failed. Good one, as they say in Britain.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Bud Man</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk is cheap. If these eight Republicans are truly heroes to CP readers (and they truly are), then, Joe, you should at least link to their fundraising sites. The nutters want to throw them out; we should honor their political courage (and maybe help to grow some backbones in the Senate by showing that reasonable defiance of the planetary suicide party isn&#039;t all downside).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk is cheap. If these eight Republicans are truly heroes to CP readers (and they truly are), then, Joe, you should at least link to their fundraising sites. The nutters want to throw them out; we should honor their political courage (and maybe help to grow some backbones in the Senate by showing that reasonable defiance of the planetary suicide party isn&#8217;t all downside).</p>
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		<title>By: Yuebing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yuebing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The GOP has painted itself into the corner on energy and environment issues.  They will do everything in their power to delay and deny, for if they lose their ideological stronghold as embodied by Rush, they will fall apart. For a week or a month.

Then they will just dust off one of their icons and put them out in the public, and rewrite recent history again.  Rush will be retired, Glenn sent to his very own camp.

Which icon?  Newt? Sarah? Jed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP has painted itself into the corner on energy and environment issues.  They will do everything in their power to delay and deny, for if they lose their ideological stronghold as embodied by Rush, they will fall apart. For a week or a month.</p>
<p>Then they will just dust off one of their icons and put them out in the public, and rewrite recent history again.  Rush will be retired, Glenn sent to his very own camp.</p>
<p>Which icon?  Newt? Sarah? Jed?</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat:

It&#039;s one thing to recognize the weakness in Waxman-Markey -- and it is, from a scientific point of view -- pathetic, but quite another to &quot;target&quot; the Democrats who voted for it.  It took poltical courage for many Dems to vote for this Bill.

At the end of the day, we are better off with Waxman-Markey than we are without it.  What we need to do is to change the terms of the debate so that the press no longer has the gall to run crap like BTI, Republican Talking points concoted by Luntz, and industry propaganda as if it were of the same value as credible scientific data.

If you are looking for a villain, it&#039;s the press and Media.

And the role of money in politics, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing to recognize the weakness in Waxman-Markey &#8212; and it is, from a scientific point of view &#8212; pathetic, but quite another to &#8220;target&#8221; the Democrats who voted for it.  It took poltical courage for many Dems to vote for this Bill.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, we are better off with Waxman-Markey than we are without it.  What we need to do is to change the terms of the debate so that the press no longer has the gall to run crap like BTI, Republican Talking points concoted by Luntz, and industry propaganda as if it were of the same value as credible scientific data.</p>
<p>If you are looking for a villain, it&#8217;s the press and Media.</p>
<p>And the role of money in politics, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Schimek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Schimek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Climate realities aside .... since when is spending 10% of national GDP overseas to buy oil better than selling carbon permits and using the proceeds to fund local renewable energy projects?

Are they getting a kickback from OPEC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate realities aside &#8230;. since when is spending 10% of national GDP overseas to buy oil better than selling carbon permits and using the proceeds to fund local renewable energy projects?</p>
<p>Are they getting a kickback from OPEC?</p>
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		<title>By: Leland Palmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leland Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are classical Fascist intimidation tactics.

They often work, historically, sad to say.

In this case, though, thoughtful people realize that there is not much the GOP or anyone else can do to them that is worse than destroying the biosphere.

We need to grow some courage, and take the fight to these fascist vermin. 

Bring it on, you fascist punks.

On to the Senate.

And what&#039;s up with our sorry excuse for news media, with the &quot;all Michael Jackson, all the time&quot; news coverage, and the near blackout of coverage of this huge Democratic victory on ACES?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are classical Fascist intimidation tactics.</p>
<p>They often work, historically, sad to say.</p>
<p>In this case, though, thoughtful people realize that there is not much the GOP or anyone else can do to them that is worse than destroying the biosphere.</p>
<p>We need to grow some courage, and take the fight to these fascist vermin. </p>
<p>Bring it on, you fascist punks.</p>
<p>On to the Senate.</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s up with our sorry excuse for news media, with the &#8220;all Michael Jackson, all the time&#8221; news coverage, and the near blackout of coverage of this huge Democratic victory on ACES?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, Joe, don&#039;t post links to sites like Malkins. We&#039;re used to actually clicking on the links in your articles. So I did, and now my day is ruined. Possibly my whole month. Not only are the articles on that site dripping with rabid lunacy and barefaced lies, but I made the mistake of reading some of the comments. Oh, dear Lord, there are simply far too many raving idiots walking around loose in this country! 

You said this site is a &quot;top conservative blog&quot;? Seriously? This is the best they can do?

As for the one comment where some outraged loon claims to have &quot;control and influence over 84,000 websites&quot; and says he is going to use it to destroy the supporters of Waxman-Markey. Well, OK, we all know the deniers are weak on math, but let&#039;s just do a quick calc:

If he spends no more than 60 seconds on each of those 84,000 websites doing *something* that will &quot;make them start packing their bags&quot; that works out to 1,400 hours of work -- or 116 days at 12 hours a day.

I&#039;m trembling in terror.

And his typing fingers are going to get awfully sore.

[&lt;em&gt;JR:  Wikipedia says that her website is routinely among the five most heavily trafficked conservative websites, so it is well worth visiting once.  Imagine how many times I had to visit it to write this piece!  Anyway, it&#039;s worth knowing what the other side thinks since they represent 40% ... 30% ... a solid 20% of Americans these days, but control 96% of House Republicans!&lt;/em&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, Joe, don&#8217;t post links to sites like Malkins. We&#8217;re used to actually clicking on the links in your articles. So I did, and now my day is ruined. Possibly my whole month. Not only are the articles on that site dripping with rabid lunacy and barefaced lies, but I made the mistake of reading some of the comments. Oh, dear Lord, there are simply far too many raving idiots walking around loose in this country! </p>
<p>You said this site is a &#8220;top conservative blog&#8221;? Seriously? This is the best they can do?</p>
<p>As for the one comment where some outraged loon claims to have &#8220;control and influence over 84,000 websites&#8221; and says he is going to use it to destroy the supporters of Waxman-Markey. Well, OK, we all know the deniers are weak on math, but let&#8217;s just do a quick calc:</p>
<p>If he spends no more than 60 seconds on each of those 84,000 websites doing *something* that will &#8220;make them start packing their bags&#8221; that works out to 1,400 hours of work &#8212; or 116 days at 12 hours a day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trembling in terror.</p>
<p>And his typing fingers are going to get awfully sore.</p>
<p>[<em>JR:  Wikipedia says that her website is routinely among the five most heavily trafficked conservative websites, so it is well worth visiting once.  Imagine how many times I had to visit it to write this piece!  Anyway, it's worth knowing what the other side thinks since they represent 40% ... 30% ... a solid 20% of Americans these days, but control 96% of House Republicans!</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Winter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just read through the WUWT thread on the Waxman-Markey vote. It&#039;s filled with that same &quot;purge them all&quot; sentiment; there&#039;s plenty of outrage and some outright paranoia.

But we should not underestimate this crowd. They have zeal, and they have resources. one comment was &quot;I am completely beside myself. I am past being outraged! I have control and influence of more that 84,000 websites and domains in this country. I am now going to use them! These idiots better start packing their bags!&quot;

You can bet they&#039;re going to be contacting members of Congress. We should do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just read through the WUWT thread on the Waxman-Markey vote. It&#8217;s filled with that same &#8220;purge them all&#8221; sentiment; there&#8217;s plenty of outrage and some outright paranoia.</p>
<p>But we should not underestimate this crowd. They have zeal, and they have resources. one comment was &#8220;I am completely beside myself. I am past being outraged! I have control and influence of more that 84,000 websites and domains in this country. I am now going to use them! These idiots better start packing their bags!&#8221;</p>
<p>You can bet they&#8217;re going to be contacting members of Congress. We should do the same.</p>
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