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		<title>SuperFreakonomics coauthor Dubner ratchets up the rhetoric, claiming his critics have issued a ‘fatwa’!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brad Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Superfreaks come up with their biggest aerosol smoke screen yet  to obscure their book&#8217;s countless mistakes, as Brad Johnson reports in this Wonk Room repost.  Note also how Dubner, in playing the victim card, trivializes the very serious issue of religious persecution.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The Superfreaks come up with their biggest aerosol smoke screen yet  to obscure their book&#8217;s countless mistakes, as Brad Johnson reports in this </em><em>Wonk Room </em><em><a href="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/11/18/superfreak-fatwa/">repost</a>.  Note also how Dubner, in playing the victim card, trivializes the very serious issue of religious persecution.</em></p>
<p>In the latest of many fawning interviews promoting <em>SuperFreakonomics</em>, author Stephen J. Dubner claimed the critics of his “<a href="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/tag/superfreakonomics">global cooling</a>” chapter have issued a “fatwa for entertaining alternate theories.” On Public Radio International’s morning program, “The Takeaway,” Dubner told hosts John Hockenberry and Celeste Headlee that he was right to call global warming a “religion.” In fact, he considers the criticism the book has received from economists, climate scientists, and energy experts to be “<a href="http://www.thetakeaway.org/stories/2009/nov/17/superfreakonomics-on-global-warming/">essentially a fatwa</a>“:</p>
<blockquote><p>In terms of the biggest result, I’d say is: We argued that the movement to stop global warming has the feel of a religion. I think if anything <strong>we should strengthen that sentence, because what’s been issued here is essentially a fatwa</strong> for entertaining alternate theories.</p></blockquote>
<p>Listen here:</p>
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<p>A fatwa is an Islamic clerical legal ruling. Dubner is evidently alluding to Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini’s twenty-year-old <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/rushdie-fatwa">fatwa calling for the death of author Salman Rushdie</a>, whose novel <em>Satanic Verses</em> was considered blasphemous by hardline Muslims. Rushdie has suffered assassination attempts and decades in seclusion. Translators of the book were <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ettore_Capriolo">stabbed</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Nygaard">shot</a>, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitoshi_Igarashi">killed</a>, and bookstores were firebombed.</p>
<p>Despite this supposed global warming “fatwa,” however, Dubner is heroically appearing all week on the Takeaway to flack his book, co-written with University of Chicago economist Steven Levitt. The <em>SuperFreakonomics</em> authors have now enjoyed softball interviews from <a href="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/11/16/superfreaks-charlie-rose/">Charlie Rose</a>, <a href="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/10/28/stewart-superfreaky-wrong/">Jon Stewart</a>, <a href="http://vp2.abc.go.com/watch/2020/166626/239360/20-questions-you-never-thought-to-ask">20/20</a>, the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/oct/12/freakonomics-global-warming-statistics">Guardian</a>, the <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/6549910/Interview-The-World-of-SuperFreakonomics.html">UK Telegraph</a>, and others. The Diane Rehm Show did a much better job, bringing in IPCC lead author Peter Frumhoff to debunk their nonsense.</p>
<p><em>SuperFreakonomics</em> has been <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/53">edged out</a> on the bestseller list by Sarah Palin’s <em>Going Rogue</em>, and Glenn Beck’s <em>Arguing with Idiots</em>.</p>
<p>[<em>JR:  For the record, while Dubner claims "We argued that the <strong>movement to stop </strong>global warming has the feel of a religion," what he wrote in the book was "Any religion, meanwhile, has its heretics, and global warming is no exception."   And what Levitt keeps asking on their website -- and answering affirmatively -- is not about the movement to stop global warming, but "<a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/11/09/superfreakonomics-author-steven-levitt-denier-of-scientific-evidence-for-global-warming/">Is Climate-Change Belief a Religion?</a>"  The bottom line is that Levitt and Dubner have <a title="Permanent Link to Superfreakonomics authors abandon climate science" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/11/17/superfreakonomics-authors-charlie-rose-levitt-dubner-abandon-climate-science/">abandoned science</a> and embraced victimhood.  Yet as one contrarian explains, “<a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2009/10/22/rules-for-contrarians-1-dont-whine-that-is-all/">Rules for Contrarians: 1. Don’t whine. That is all</a>.”</em></p>
<p><em>Finally I'd love to know which critics Dubner is talking about.  Personally, I'm just looking for more apologies and retractions -- <a title="Permanent Link to One error retracted, 99 to go.  Superfreaknomics authors will, in future editions, correct their claim that Caldeira believes “carbon dioxide is not the right villain”" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/11/05/superfreaknomics-errors-levitt/">One error retracted, 99 to go. Superfreaknomics authors will, in future editions, correct their claim that Caldeira believes “carbon dioxide is not the right villain.”</a></em>]</p>
<p><span>Update</span> from Brad:  Dubner actually trotted out the &#8220;fatwa&#8221; claim last month on  a different WNYC program, saying on the <a href="http://greenenergyreporter.com/2009/10/dubner-and-levitt-defend-superfreakonomics-on-new-york-public-radio/">Leonard  Lopate show</a> on <a href="http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/episodes/2009/10/21">October 21st</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The movement to stop global warming has some of the components of a  religion and I’ll tell you we’ve certainly experienced that in the past few  days. <strong>It feels very much like a fatwa has been levied. As with fatwas there’s  obviously a bizarre twisting and omission of facts</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>[<em>JR:  Finally, in a perverse coincidence, I'm posting this while on the train up to NYC, and the person sitting next to me is reading ... yes, Superfreakonomics!</em> <em>These victims of religious persecution are laughing all the way to the bank!</em>]</p>
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		<title>Superfreakonomics authors abandon climate science</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brad Johnson</dc:creator>
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The authors of SuperFreakonomics simultaneously insist they accept the science &#8212; &#8220;Like those who are criticizing us, we believe that rising global temperatures are a man-made phenomenon&#8221; &#8212; while at the same time labeling global warming a &#8220;religion&#8221; (see here).  And we&#8217;ve seen one award-winning journalist explain “Freakonomics Guys Flunk Science of Climate Change.”  But [...]]]></description>
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<p><em>The authors of </em><em>SuperFreakonomics simultaneously insist they accept the science &#8212; &#8220;Like those who are criticizing us, we believe that rising global temperatures are a man-made phenomenon&#8221; &#8212; while at the same time labeling global warming a &#8220;religion&#8221; (see <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/11/09/superfreakonomics-author-steven-levitt-denier-of-scientific-evidence-for-global-warming/">here</a>).  And we&#8217;ve seen one award-winning journalist explain “<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&amp;sid=aVKXZg_Z.vMY"><em>Freakonomics</em> Guys Flunk Science of Climate Change</a>.”  But now, as this stunning Charlie Rose video shows, we have the clearest demonstration that both Levitt and Dubner don&#8217;t accept <strong>and </strong>don&#8217;t understand the science.  This is a Wonk Room <a href="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/11/16/superfreaks-charlie-rose/">repost</a>.</em></p>
<p>Appearing on PBS’s influential <a href="http://www.charlierose.com/">Charlie Rose Show</a> last week, <em>SuperFreakonomics</em> authors Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner expanded upon their <a href="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/tag/superfreakonomics">destructively uninformed portrayal of climate science</a>, even throwing into question man’s influence on global warming. When Rose asked him about the controversial “global cooling” chapter, Levitt fatuously claimed that “what we actually said is not even very controversial.” Levitt said that <em>SuperFreakonomics</em> is “not denying that the Earth has gotten warmer.” After Rose interjected, “And it’s man created,” Levitt said, “It’s harder to know whether it’s man created”:</p>
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<blockquote><p><strong>It’s harder to know whether it’s man created</strong>. It’s always harder to know whether it’s some — you know, why something happened than whether it did. That’s not even our question.</p></blockquote>
<p>Later during the interview Dubner attempted to justify the book’s claim that “carbon dioxide is not the right villain,” arguing that it was the decrease in sulfur dioxide and other pollutants that has caused global warming, rather than the accumulation of carbon dioxide.</p>
<p>This is of course utter nonsense — aerosols like sulfur dioxide certainly masked the heat-trapping effects of greenhouse gases, but global warming is caused by the greenhouse gases. If a methamphetamine addict is using alcohol to blunt the side effects of his meth habit, his hyperactivity isn’t due to a lack of binge drinking.</p>
<p>[<em>JR:  I don't know what is more jaw-dropping -- Levitt's response backpedaling on basic climate science or Dubner's "explanation."  For the record, Dubner has the science exactly backwards: Removing the aerosols didn't show carbon dioxide was<strong> less</strong> important to warming -- it showed it was <strong>more</strong> important!  Indeed, one of the authors' few scientific sources, Nobel laureate Paul Crutzen, said after a 2003 workshop on the subject, “<a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3798-global-warmings-sooty-smokescreen-revealed.html">It looks like the warming today may be only about a quarter of what we would have got without aerosols</a><strong>.</strong>“<strong> </strong> Crutzen noted that aerosols “are giving us a false sense of security right now.”  A <a href="http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2005/2005GL024457.shtml">2005 study led by researchers at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration</a> [subs. req'd] concluded, “Natural and anthropogenic aerosols have substantially delayed and lessened the total amount of global ocean warming–and therefore of sea level rise–that would have arisen purely in response to increasing greenhouse gases.”  Indeed, wasn&#8217;t the point of their &#8220;Global Cooling&#8221; chapter that aerosols would offset the warming we&#8217;d otherwise see from CO2?!  What exactly do these guys believe?</em>]</p>
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<p>Dubner and Levitt’s quest to deny the reality of climate change and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfL6Xf7BWyQ">promote radical geoengineering</a> to block the sun as a “sensible” alternative to reducing greenhouse gases is, as the New Yorker’s Elizabeth Kolbert writes, “<a href="http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2009/11/16/091116crbo_books_kolbert">horseshit</a>.” Their strategy is like counseling the meth addict to become a full-blown alcoholic instead of reducing his drug use.</p>
<p>Despite Levitt’s argumenter that “it’s harder to know” whether global warming is “man created,” in reality <a href="http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2007/0218am_statement.shtml">the scientific evidence is clear</a> and has been for years, according to the scientific organizations of the world:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>American Association for the Advancement of Science:</em> The scientific evidence is clear: <strong>global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now</strong>, and it is a growing threat to society. [<a href="http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2007/0218am_statement.shtml">10/9/06</a>]</p>
<p><em>U.S. Global Change Research Program:</em> Global temperature has increased over the past 50 years. This observed increase is due <strong>primarily to human-induced emissions</strong> of heat-trapping gases.  [<a href="http://www.globalchange.gov/publications/reports/scientific-assessments/us-impacts/key-findings">June 2009</a>]</p>
<p><em>American Physical Society:</em> Emissions of <strong>greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere</strong> in ways that affect the Earth’s climate. Greenhouse gases include carbon dioxide as well as methane, nitrous oxide and other gases. They are emitted from fossil fuel combustion and a range of industrial and agricultural processes. The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. <strong>We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now</strong>. [<a href="http://www.aps.org/policy/statements/07_1.cfm">11/18/07</a>]</p>
<p><em>American Meteorological Society:</em> Despite the uncertainties noted above, <strong>there is adequate evidence from observations and interpretations of climate simulations to conclude that the atmosphere, ocean, and land surface are warming; that humans have significantly contributed to this change</strong>; and that further climate change will continue to have important impacts on human societies, on economies, on ecosystems, and on wildlife through the 21st century and beyond. [<a href="http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/2007climatechange.html">2/1/07</a>]</p>
<p><em>American Geophysical Union:</em> The Earth’s climate is now clearly out of balance and is warming. Many components of the climate system—including the temperatures of the atmosphere, land and ocean, the extent of sea ice and mountain glaciers, the sea level, the distribution of precipitation, and the length of seasons—are <strong>now changing at rates and in patterns that are not natural</strong> and are best explained by the increased atmospheric abundances of greenhouse gases and aerosols generated by human activity during the 20th century. . . . Evidence from most oceans and all continents except Antarctica shows <strong>warming attributable to human activities</strong>.  [<a href="http://www.agu.org/outreach/science_policy/positions/climate_change2008.shtml">December 2007</a>]</p>
<p><em>American Quaternary Association:</em> Few credible scientists now doubt that <strong>humans have influenced the documented rise in global temperatures</strong> since the Industrial Revolution. [<a href="http://www.agu.org/fora/eos/pdfs/2006EO360008.pdf">10/24/06</a>]</p>
<p><em>The national science academies of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the United Kingdom, the United States, Brazil, China, India, Mexico and South Africa:</em> It is essential that world leaders agree on the <strong>emission reductions needed to combat negative consequences of anthropogenic climate change</strong> at the UNFCCC negotiations in Copenhagen in December 2009.  [<a href="http://www.nationalacademies.org/includes/G8+5energy-climate09.pdf">May 2009</a>]</p></blockquote>
<p><em>JR:  You can find a longer transcript of the Charlie Rose interview at <a href="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/11/16/superfreaks-charlie-rose/">Wonk Room</a>.  Here&#8217;s another excerpt:<br />
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<blockquote><p>DUBNER: It’s a big may, it’s a big may — I mean look, Myhrvold, I think, describes it very well in the book. The idea of the garden hose to the sky and sulfur dioxide in the air and geoengineering. It’s like this. When you build a house you do everything you can to not have a fire in the house. You don’t give your kids matches, you don’t run around with a lighter and doing like this. But, if you have it, do you want a sprinkler system? Yeah. So the idea is: If the problem gets to be that bad, do you want to have something that could work beyond this kind of long-term, expensive, uncertain carbon mitigation idea?</p></blockquote>
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<div>Wonk Room notes that &#8220;in an <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/2009/200911/20091113.html">interview with CBC Radio</a>, climate scientist Ken Caldeira &#8212; the one climate scientist on the Intellectual Ventures team interviewed in <em>SuperFreakonomics</em> &#8212; reiterates his opposition to the idea that geoengineering is a &#8217;sensible&#8217; alternative to carbon mitigation&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>As I said at the outset, it&#8217;s obvious to anybody who looks at the problem that if we want to reduce climate risk we need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and reduce that really quickly. The earth&#8217;s system is extremely complicated, and when you interfere in complicated systems, things happen that you don&#8217;t anticipate. And so what we can do is anticipate the unanticipated but we don’t know what that will be. But I do think we face grave risks, and I think we might be faced with a difficult situation where do we take the devil we know or the devil we don&#8217;t know. We might be in a tough spot.And even if it worked as advertised, after Mt. Pinatubo the Ganges again had the lowest riverflow ever. What if you started doing this, and it did improve climate in most places most of the time, but you created a famine in India? India is a nuclear-armed nation now, and are they going to stand by and let their people be killed by this engineering approach? Even if it basically works for most people, there are issues of equity and governance and political tensions. It&#8217;s fraught with all kinds of dimensions of difficult issues.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Superfreakonomics coauthor replies to &#8220;scathing review&#8221; by Elizabeth Kolbert:  &#8220;she somehow accomplished all this with a degree from Yale in … literature.&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Monday, The New Yorker published Elizabeth Kolbert&#8217;s lengthy review of SuperFreakonomics: Global Cooling, Patriotic Prostitutes, and Why Suicide Bombers Should Buy Life Insurance.  In her 2400-word review, titled &#8220;Hosed:  Is there a quick fix for the climate?&#8221; she writes:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Monday, <em>The New Yorker</em> published Elizabeth Kolbert&#8217;s lengthy review of <em>SuperFreakonomics: Global Cooling, Patriotic Prostitutes, and Why Suicide Bombers Should Buy Life Insurance</em>.  In her 2400-word review, titled &#8220;<a href="http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2009/11/16/091116crbo_books_kolbert?currentPage=all">Hosed:  Is there a quick fix for the climate?</a>&#8221; she writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Given their emphasis on cold, hard numbers, it’s noteworthy that <strong>Levitt and Dubner ignore what are, by now, whole libraries’ worth of data on global warming</strong>. Indeed, <strong>just about everything they have to say on the topic is, factually speaking, wrong. Among the many matters they misrepresent are: the significance of carbon emissions as a climate-forcing agent, the mechanics of climate modelling, the temperature record of the past decade, and the climate history of the past several hundred thousand years</strong>.  Raymond T. Pierrehumbert is a climatologist who, like Levitt, teaches at the University of Chicago. In a particularly scathing critique, he composed an open letter to Levitt, <a onclick="s_objectID=&quot;http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/10/an-open-letter-to-steve-levitt/#more-1488_1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/10/an-open-letter-to-steve-levitt/#more-1488" target="_blank">which he posted on the blog RealClimate</a>.</p></blockquote>
<div id="TixyyLink" style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;">She then quoted from that open letter, which noted that their critique of solar cells was &#8220;complete and utter nonsense.&#8221;</div>
<p>On Friday, coauthor Stephen Dubner replied in a post titled, &#8220;<a href="http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/13/with-geoengineering-outlawed-will-only-outlaws-have-geoengineering">With Geoengineering Outlawed, Will Only Outlaws Have Geoengineering?</a>&#8220;  Notwithstanding the title, the piece is clearly meant to be serious.  Here is what they have to say about Kolbert&#8217;s review:<br />
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<blockquote><p>And for a great illustration of just how repugnant some environmentalists find the very thought of geoengineering, consider <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2009/11/16/091116crbo_books_kolbert?currentPage=all">this scathing review</a> of our book in <em>The New Yorker</em>. The author, <strong><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/bios/elizabeth_kolbert/search?contributorName=Elizabeth%20Kolbert">Elizabeth Kolbert</a></strong>, seems to disdain everything we’ve ever written on any topic, and claims we utterly fail to understand climate science (<a href="http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/the-superfreakonomics-global-warming-fact-quiz/">unless of course we don’t</a>). She is <a href="http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/ikolbert.asp">a feeling and passionate environmentalist</a> who, seemingly so disturbed by geongineering, is compelled to cast our own horse-dung story right back at us with a splat. Here is my favorite line from the review: “Neither Levitt, an economist, nor Dubner, a journalist, has any training in climate science — or, for that matter, in science of any kind.”</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The time has probably come to admit that neither of us were Ku Klux Klan members either, or sumo wrestlers or Realtors or abortion providers or schoolteachers or even pimps. And yet somehow we managed to write about all that without any horse dung (well, not much at least) flying our way. Kolbert, meanwhile, has written widely about the perils of global warming, both in <em>The New Yorker</em> and in book form (see <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Field-Notes-Catastrophe-Nature-Climate/dp/B001FA23ZE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1258119267&amp;sr=1-1">Field Notes From a Catastrophe: Man, Nature, and Climate Change</a></em>), and seems to be extremely well-regarded in the field of environmental journalism. And yet, if <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Kolbert">her Wikipedia page</a> is correct, she somehow accomplished all this with a degree from Yale in … literature.</p></blockquote>
<p>Snap.  Or not.</p>
<p>Note how Kolbert is pigeonholed as an &#8220;environmentalist,&#8221; albeit a &#8220;feeling and passionate&#8221; one, since that allows her to be lumped in with all the other environmentalists who supposedly find geo-engineering repugnant &#8212; as opposed to, say, climatologist Ken Caldeira who merely finds the geo-engineering-only solution <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&amp;sid=aVKXZg_Z.vMY">that the authors propose in their book</a> unworkable and <strong>&#8220;</strong><a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/09/05/caldeira-delayer-lomborg-copenhagen-climate-consensus-geoengineering/">pretty ugly</a>” and <a title="Permanent Link to Exclusive:  Caldeira calls the vision of Lomborg’s Climate Consensus “a dystopic world out of a science fiction story”" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/20/2009/09/05/caldeira-delayer-lomborg-copenhagen-climate-consensus-geoengineering/">“a dystopic world out of a science fiction story”</a> and &#8220;<a href="http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2201">crazy.</a>&#8220;  Kolbert herself notes:</p>
<blockquote><p>There are eminent scientists—among them the Nobel Prize-winning chemist Paul Crutzen—who argue that geoengineering should be seriously studied, but only with the understanding that it represents a risky, last-ditch attempt to avert catastrophe.  “By far the preferred way” to confront climate change, <a onclick="s_objectID=&quot;http://www.cogci.dk/news/Crutzen_albedo%20enhancement_sulfur%20injections.pdf_1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cogci.dk/news/Crutzen_albedo%20enhancement_sulfur%20injections.pdf" target="_blank">Crutzen has written</a>, “is to lower the emissions of greenhouse gases.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>You can read the<a href="http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/ikolbert.asp"> interview she gave</a> and decide if that makes here &#8220;a feeling and passionate environmentalist&#8221; &#8212; not that there&#8217;s anything wrong with that &#8212; or simply a journalist who has talked to dozens of the leading climate scientists and visited many of the places where the climate is changing the most and reported on what she heard, saw, and learned.</p>
<p>Indeed, <strong>Kolbert&#8217;s point about credentials is almost exactly the opposite of what Dubner implies in his dismissal of her</strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Neither Levitt, an economist, nor Dubner, a journalist, has any training in climate science—or, for that matter, in science of any kind. It’s their contention that they don’t need it. The whole conceit behind “SuperFreakonomics” and, before that, “Freakonomics,” which sold some four million copies, is that a dispassionate, statistically minded thinker can find patterns and answers in the data that those who are emotionally invested in the material will have missed&#8230;.</p>
<p>Given their emphasis on cold, hard numbers, it’s noteworthy that Levitt and Dubner ignore what are, by now, whole libraries’ worth of data on global warming.  Indeed, just about everything they have to say on the topic is, factually speaking, wrong.</p></blockquote>
<p>Their credentials aren&#8217;t the issue for her.  They simply didn&#8217;t do their homework, and so they got the science all wrong (as many, many others have pointed out).  Hence her quote of Pierrehumbert.</p>
<p>Their dismissive reply to her substantive critique is another attempted aerosol smokescreen, just as Levitt&#8217;s <a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/10/an-open-letter-to-steve-levitt/#comment-140070">reply to Pierrehumbert on RealClimate</a> was:</p>
<blockquote><p>Raymond,</p>
<p>I enjoyed your intentional misreading of my chapter on global warming! I think it has really contributed to moving towards a solution to these important problems&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
<p>As Pierrehumbert replied:</p>
<blockquote><p>Steve, glad to see you’re reading this.</p>
<p><strong>Something I have found rather bizarre about your responses to the criticisms of your climate chapter is the way you continually try to change history about what you actually wrote, which is plainly there for anybody to see.</strong> I found it so unbelievable that you included the “black solar cell” meme when I first heard it that I actually went over to Borders and stood there and intentionally read (not misread) the chapter to see if it was true.</p></blockquote>
<p>Go figure.</p>
<p>Kolbert ended the review:</p>
<blockquote><p>To be skeptical of climate models and credulous about things like carbon-eating trees and cloudmaking machinery and hoses that shoot sulfur into the sky is to replace a faith in science with a belief in science fiction. This is the turn that “SuperFreakonomics” takes, even as its authors repeatedly extoll their hard-headedness.  <strong>All of which goes to show that, while some forms of horseshit are no longer a problem, others will always be with us.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to be a climatologist to know that.</p>
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		<title>One error retracted, 99 to go.  Superfreaknomics authors will, in future editions, correct their claim that Caldeira believes &#8220;carbon dioxide is not the right villain&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The outrage over &#8212; and debunkings of &#8212; the error-riddled book Superfreakonomics continue, even as coauthors Levitt and Dubner slowly concede their mistakes.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The outrage over &#8212; and debunkings of &#8212; the<a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/10/20/2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/"> error-riddled book <em>Superfreakonomics</em></a> continue, even as coauthors Levitt and Dubner slowly concede their mistakes.</p>
<p>Perhaps the most scathing takedown to date comes from <a href="http://geosci.uchicago.edu/%7Ertp1/">Raymond T. Pierrehumbert</a>, the Louis Block Professor in the Geophysical Sciences at the University of Chicago, on RealClimate, in an &#8220;<a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/10/an-open-letter-to-steve-levitt/">An open letter to Steve Levitt</a>.&#8221;  Pierrehumbert accuses his U of C colleague of &#8220;<strong>academic malpractice</strong> in your book.&#8221;</p>
<p>So far, Dubner has apologized to me for one false accusation in his Sunday, October 18 post attacking my accurate debunking of his book (see <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/10/21/superfreakonomics-errors-dubner-apology-romm/">here</a>).  Now he has finally conceded <a href="http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/ken-caldeiras-carbon-solution/#more-20665">on his blog</a> that one of the many key errors I pointed out in his book &#8212; that climatologist Ken Caldeira did not believe or ever say that &#8220;carbon dioxide is not the right villain in this fight&#8221; (see <a href="http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/ken-caldeiras-carbon-solution/#more-20665">here</a>).  He still has not retracted the countless other mistakes I and others have pointed out.  Indeed, Berkeley economist <a href="http://http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2009/10/sigh-last-post-on-superfreakonomics-i-promise.html">Brad DeLong urged both authors to “abjectly apologize” for the whole chapter</a>.</p>
<p>And Dubner has not retracted the claim that is still being parroted by the deniers and delayers around the web that I did a &#8220;smear&#8221; on the book.  <strong>It is clear for all to see now that there never was a smear. Everything I wrote in my original debunking was accurate </strong>&#8211; see <a id="destacado_12514" title="Error-riddled 'Superfreakonomics':  New book pushes global cooling myths, sheer illogic, and patent nonsense -- and the primary climatologist it relies on, Ken Caldeira, says it is an inaccurate portrayal of me and misleading in many places." href="../2009/10/19/2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/">Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’: New book pushes global cooling myths, sheer illogic, and patent nonsense — and the primary climatologist it relies on, Ken Caldeira, says &#8220;it is an inaccurate portrayal of me&#8221; and &#8220;misleading&#8221; in &#8220;many&#8221; places.</a></p>
<p><span id="more-13688"></span><strong>I challenge Dubner and Levitt to identify any errors in my critique.</strong> Yes, I used strong language in a private e-mail to Caldeira, though nothing near as strong as what Pierrehumbert has written in his public letter to Levitt.  <strong>But I challenge either coauthor to identify what charges in that post are false and constitute a smear.</strong></p>
<p>Ironically, by failing to retract the errors I pointed out in my post weeks ago, Levitt has brought upon himself the detailed and devastating takedown by his fellow U of C Professor, which focuses on the same exact errors I debunked.  Pierrehumbert concludes:</p>
<blockquote><p>The point here is that <em>really simple arithmetic</em>, which you could not be bothered to do, would have been enough to tell you that the claim that the blackness of solar cells makes solar energy pointless is <strong>complete and utter nonsense</strong>. I don’t think you would have accepted such <strong>laziness and sloppiness</strong> in a term paper from one of your students, so why do you accept it from yourself? <strong>What does the failure to do such basic thinking with numbers say about the extent to which anything you write can be trusted? How do you think it reflects on the profession of economics </strong>when a member of that profession — somebody who that profession seems to esteem highly — publicly and noisily shows that he cannot be bothered to do simple arithmetic and elementary background reading? Not even for a subject of such paramount importance as global warming.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><strong>And it’s not as if the “black solar cell” gaffe was the only bit of academic malpractice in your book</strong>: among other things, the presentation of aerosol geoengineering as a harmless and cheap quick fix for global warming ignored a great deal of accessible and readily available material on the severe risks involved, as <a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/10/why-levitt-and-dubner-like-geo-engineering-and-why-they-are-wrong/">Gavin noted</a> in his recent post. The fault here is not that you dared to advocate geoengineering as a solution. There is a broad spectrum of opinion among scientists about the amount of aerosol geoengineering research that is justified, but very few scientists think of it as anything but a desperate last-ditch attempt, or at best a strategy to be used in extreme moderation as part of a basket of strategies dominated by emissions reductions. You owed it to your readers to present a fair picture of the consequences of geoengineering, but chose not to do so.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ouch!</p>
<p>I hope this forever puts to rest the notion that my post&#8217;s far less sweeping language was somehow too harsh.  Pierrehumbert accuses Levitt of multiple instances of &#8220;academic malpractice,&#8221; questioning whether anything Levitt writes can now be trusted.</p>
<p>Anyone who knows climate science or anything about solar energy would have been as outraged as I was in reading the chapter.  Anyone who knows Caldeira&#8217;s work, anyone who had read his <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=0CAcQFjAA&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fwp-dyn%2Fcontent%2Farticle%2F2009%2F09%2F03%2FAR2009090303723.html&amp;ei=PWnzSo_QBoGxlAfmvrmkAw&amp;usg=AFQjCNHQh9TR2PJrZVx_f0Ads3m4_m-XdQ&amp;sig2=hISZ21zToRJpKDr39Ew8rg">September comments in the <em>Washington Post</em></a> &#8212; “Geoengineering is not an alternative to carbon emissions reductions,” he said. “If emissions keep going up and up, and you use geoengineering as a way to deal with it, it’s pretty clear the endgame of that process is pretty ugly.” &#8212; or anyone who had interviewed him recently on that very subject would have been as outraged as I was by how the Superfreaks misrepresented his work.  And they still to this day don&#8217;t get that.  As award-winning journalist Eric Pooley wrote in his Bloomberg story, “<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&amp;sid=aVKXZg_Z.vMY"><em>Freakonomics</em> Guys Flunk Science of Climate Change</a>”:</p>
<blockquote><p>Caldeira, who is researching the idea [of aerosol geoengineering], argues that it can succeed only if we first reduce emissions. Otherwise, he says, geoengineering can’t begin to cope with the collateral damage, such as acidic oceans killing off shellfish.</p>
<p>Levitt and Dubner ignore his view and champion his work as a permanent substitute for emissions cuts. When I told Dubner that Caldeira doesn’t believe geoengineering can work without cutting emissions, he was <strong>baffled</strong>. “I don’t understand how that could be,” he said. In other words, the <em>Freakonomics</em> guys just flunked climate science.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>So every single aspect of my initial critique has been thoroughly vindicated by subsequent analysis and reporting, including what I wrote about the infamous &#8220;villain&#8221; line</strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p>One sentence about Caldeira in particular is the exact opposite of what he believes<strong> </strong>(page 184):</p>
<blockquote><p>Yet his research tells him that carbon dioxide is not the right villain in this fight.</p></blockquote>
<p>Levitt and Dubner didn’t run this quote by Caldeira, and when he saw a version from Myrhvold, he objected to it.  But Levitt and Dubner apparently wanted to keep it very badly — it even makes the <em>SuperFreakonomics</em> Table of Contents in the Chapter Five summary “Is carbon dioxide the wrong villain?”  It fits their contrarian sensibility, but it makes no actual sense.</p></blockquote>
<p>As award-winning journalist Eric Pooley wrote in his Bloomberg story, “<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&amp;sid=aVKXZg_Z.vMY"><em>Freakonomics</em> Guys Flunk Science of Climate Change</a>”:</p>
<blockquote><p>Caldeira, like the vast majority of climate scientists, believes cutting carbon dioxide and other greenhouse-gas emissions is our only real chance to avoid runaway climate change.<strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>“Carbon dioxide is the right villain,” Caldeira wrote on his Web site in reply. He told <a onmouseover="return escape( popwSearchNews( this ))" href="http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Joe+Romm&amp;site=wnews&amp;client=wnews&amp;proxystylesheet=wnews&amp;output=xml_no_dtd&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;filter=p&amp;getfields=wnnis&amp;sort=date:D:S:d1">Joe Romm</a>, the respected climate blogger who <a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="../2009/10/20/2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/" target="_blank">broke the story</a>, that he had objected to the “wrong villain” line but Dubner and Levitt didn’t correct it; instead, they added the “incredibly foolish” quote, a half step in the right direction. Caldeira gave the same account to me.</strong></p>
<p>Levitt and Dubner do say that the book “overstates” Caldeira’s position. That’s a weasel word: The book claims the opposite of what Caldeira believes. <strong>Caldeira told me the book contains “many errors” in addition to the “major error” of misstating his scientific opinion on carbon dioxide’s role….</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>So finally, finally, Dubner <a href="http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/ken-caldeiras-carbon-solution/">writes a post</a> acknowledging this error alone and promising to change it in future editions.  He writes:</p>
<p><a href="http://climateprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Caldeira-A1.gif"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-13751" title="Caldeira A1" src="http://climateprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Caldeira-A1.gif" alt="Caldeira A1" width="493" height="179" /></a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Caldeira&#8217;s full reply:</p>
<blockquote><p>A: Reality is just slightly more complex.</p>
<p>I did receive a version in MSWord. I did not read it all but just searched for my name. (I feel no need to fact check things that come in over the transom.)</p>
<p>I highlit the offending sentence and wrote the following comment:</p>
<p>And yet his research tells him that carbon dioxide is not the right villain in this fight.[KC1]</p>
<p>[KC1]My views differ significantly from <strong>Lowell</strong>’s and <strong>Nathan</strong>’s. I do think we are being incredibly foolish emitting CO2 and that avoiding all of this environmental risk is a good way to invest a few percent of our GDP. My pessimism stems from the apparent difficulties of solving the “prisoner’s dilemma”- and “tragedy of the commons”-type aspects of this problem.</p>
<p>I expected, based on this comment, that the highlit sentence would be removed but did not explicitly request them to remove it. Instead, Levitt and Dubner added a line about “foolish” preceding the line that I was concerned about. So now the text reads:</p>
<p><em>He believes “we are being incredibly foolish emitting carbon dioxide” as we currently do. Yet his research tells him that carbon dioxide is not the right villain in this fight.</em></p>
<p>Did I object to the line? Arguably, yes. Was I clear and explicit about not wanting the line in there? No. Was there room for people acting in good faith to differ regarding what my highlighting meant? Yes.</p>
<p>All of the other statements attributed to me are based on fact, although there are differences in detail, nuance, etc.</p>
<p>As I have tried to say several times now: my views, beliefs, policy prescriptions, etc., differ from those of Myhrvold, Wood, Levitt, Dubner, etc., however, I do not question their good intentions.</p>
<p>I can and do frame my own beliefs differently and set them in a different context.</p></blockquote>
<p>Since Dubner publishes this without disputing it, I assume he agrees with it.</p>
<p>But this response is 100% consistent with what I wrote &#8212; and what Pooley wrote based on his interview of Dubner and Caldeira.  The only &#8220;just slight&#8221; difference, to use Caldeira&#8217;s phrase, is whether this was &#8220;good faith.&#8221;  That is a matter of opinion.  Caldeira is certainly entitled to his view.  Note, by the way, that Caldeira coyly says, &#8220;I did receive a version in MSWord.&#8221;  Yes, but as Caldeira told me, he received it from Myhrvold, not the authors themselves, which is not standard practice for any book I&#8217;ve been involved with or any interview I&#8217;ve ever given, not from an author who was supposedly trying to get this important story right.</p>
<p>Pooley clearly doesn&#8217;t see this as &#8220;good faith.&#8221;  And all I wrote was:</p>
<blockquote><p>Levitt and Dubner didn’t run this quote by Caldeira, and when he saw a version from Myrhvold, he objected to it.  But Levitt and Dubner <strong>apparently</strong> wanted to keep it very badly — it even makes the <em>SuperFreakonomics</em> Table of Contents in the Chapter Five summary “Is carbon dioxide the wrong villain?”  It fits their contrarian sensibility, but it makes no actual sense.</p></blockquote>
<p>The first sentence is what happened.  The first half of the second sentence is my theory, which no one has ever refuted and many have agreed with after reviewing the facts, including Pooley.  Same for the final sentence.  No smear there.</p>
<p>Now Dubner tries mightily in this latest retraction to leave people with the impression that Caldeira doesn&#8217;t find any other errors in the book or that he doesn&#8217;t think the the book misrepresented his work.  But in fact, as Pooley&#8217;s reporting shows, Caldeira did say, just as I reported, the book contained &#8220;many errors.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you go to Caldeira&#8217;s website (click <a href="http://dge.stanford.edu/labs/caldeiralab/">here</a>), he doesn&#8217;t send people to the interview above, but rather writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>For comments on <em>SuperFreakonomics</em>, please see an <a href="http://www.e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2201">interview at Yale Environment 360 (21 Oct 2009)</a></p></blockquote>
<p>For Caldeira, the Yale interview (which I wrote about <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/10/26/caldeira-interview-superfreakonomics-geoengineering/">here</a>) is his comment for the public on the book (regular readers can skip this part, but I repeat this part for the record):</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Yale Environment 360</strong>: I want to start with this little dust-up over <em>SuperFreakonomics</em>. In the book, you are quoted as saying, when it comes to global warming, “Carbon dioxide is not the right villain.” Is that accurate?</p>
<p><strong>Ken Caldeira</strong>: <em>That is not accurate. I don’t believe I said anything remotely like that because I believe that we should be outlawing the production of devices that emit carbon dioxide, and I don’t think we can solve this carbon climate problem unless we drastically reduce our carbon dioxide emissions very soon.</em></p>
<p><strong>e360</strong>: They also write that you are convinced that human activity is responsible for “some” global warming. What does that mean?</p>
<p><strong>Caldeira</strong>: I don’t think we can say with certainty whether we’re responsible for 90 percent of it or we might be responsible for 110 percent of it. But the vast majority of global warming, I believe, is due to human release of greenhouse gases to the atmosphere.</p>
<p><strong>e360</strong>: Another thing that plays in to the same kind of sensibility is the idea [which the book quotes Caldeira saying] that the “doubling of CO2 traps less than 2 percent of the outgoing radiation emitted by the Earth.” When that’s phrased like that, it makes it sound like it’s not really much of a problem.</p>
<p><strong>Caldeira</strong>: You should think of the whole global warming problem as a 1 percent problem, at least for doubling of CO2. In absolute temperature Kelvin — scientists like to use the Kelvin scale — the current Earth temperature is around 288 degrees Kelvin, and a 3-degree warming on top of that is basically a one-percent additional warming. And so this whole issue of climate change, when viewed from an Earth-system perspective, is a story about 1 percents and 2 percents. Two percent might sound like a small number, but that’s the difference between a much hotter world, and the kind of world we’re accustomed to….</p>
<p><strong>e360</strong>: Overall, do you feel like your work has been accurately and fairly represented in this book?</p></blockquote>
<p><span id="more-13215"> </span><strong> </strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Caldeira</strong>: The <em>main misrepresentation</em> <em>is the quote that says that CO2 is not “the right villain.” Now, again, I don’t use “villain” talk myself, but if you say what’s the primary gas responsible for the planetary warming, I would say it’s carbon dioxide.</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Now, there’s a tougher question when it comes to the other statements that are attributed to me. All of those other statements are based in fact and based on studies that either I have published or other scientists have published. And if we pull back to the case of the biosphere taking up 70 percent of CO2 — well, yes, we have a published study that said that. It also presented results saying that we might warm up the planet enough to risk melting Antarctica ultimately. And so there is a selective use of quotes.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>If you spend several hours talking to somebody and they take a half-dozen things and put it in a book, then it’s going to be in the context and framing of arguments that the authors are trying to make. <em>And so the actual statements attributed to me are based on fact, but the contexts and the framing of those issues are very different from the context and framing that I would put those same facts in…</em></p>
<p><em>So I think that the casual reader can … come up with a misimpression of what I believe and what I feel about things.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Which is what I wrote.  Indeed, I knew this based on my previous interviews with him, which is why I asked him to make this point, which he did, writing:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>So, yes, my representation in the <em>Superfreakonomics</em> book is damaging to me because it is an inaccurate portrayal of me. The problem is the inaccurate portrayal, not my actions or statements.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>And then after he emailed me that quote, I took the extra step of explicitly asking him if I could use it, and he said yes because it is what he believes.</p>
<p><strong>So, I made no false statements or smears in my original post or the headline</strong>, although I probably should have put that quote in the first post, instead of merely excerpting in the headline.  Dubner&#8217;s original post falsely claims that Caldeira didn&#8217;t actually say what I wrote in the headline.  But he did.  And, of course, he told the same thing to Pooley and Goodell.</p>
<p>As an ironic aside, a sharp-eyed reader pointed out to me (and sent this screen shot) that in the first version of the retraction Dubner published online this Wednesday, he actually introduced Caldeira&#8217;s quote this way:</p>
<p><a href="http://climateprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Caldeira-OLD.gif"><img title="Caldeira OLD" src="http://climateprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Caldeira-OLD.gif" alt="Caldeira OLD" width="467" height="154" /></a></p>
<p><strong>And Dubner mistakenly linked to the Yale e360 interview! </strong>So Dubner knows what was in the Yale interview &#8212; much as he knows what Pooley wrote, since Pooley talked to him at length &#8212; and thus knows that again it completely vindicates what I wrote.</p>
<p>Dubner still has not corrected his <a href="http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/global-warming-in-superfreakonomics-the-anatomy-of-a-smear/">original, false claim </a>that I smeared him, which he wrote on October 18 (emphasis added):</p>
<blockquote><p>But more broadly, he made it sound as if we had distorted Ken Caldeira’s views in the worst way: “He [Caldeira] has responded to many e-mail queries of mine over the weekend,” Romm wrote. “He simply doesn’t believe what the Superfreaks make it seem like he believes.”</p>
<p>This was the blog post that launched a thousand more. The headlines varied a bit but the general thrust, perhaps inspired by Romm’s exciting headline, was always the same: <strong>two guys who aren’t climate scientists wrote a book with a chapter about climate science and one of the main climate scientists in this chapter is saying they badly misrepresented his views.</strong></p>
<p><strong> Yikes. If that were true, I would come after us with pitchforks too.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>It is true.</p>
<p>And guess what, even your University of Chicago colleague came after you with the academic version of pitchforks, even noting &#8220;the way <em>Superfreakonomics</em> mangled Ken Caldeira’s rather nuanced views on geoengineering.&#8221;  So have many others.  Nobelist Krugman wrote, &#8220;<a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/superfreakingmeta/"><strong>in this crucial chapter, there’s an average of one statement per page that’s either flatly untrue or deeply misleading.</strong></a>&#8221;</p>
<p>And Dubner&#8217;s false charge against me launched <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/11/01/keith-kloor-trash-journalist/">a thousand more</a>.</p>
<p>It is time for Levitt and Dubner to retract the smear charge and issue a bunch of other corrections in their book.  It shouldn&#8217;t be hard.  They&#8217;ve already retracted one false charge , apologized to me, and agreed to one correction in the book.</p>
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		<title>Rep. Jay Inslee slams SuperFreakonomics:  &#8220;People are still trying to write books to deceive the American public&#8221; on climate science.</title>
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This is a repost from Wonk Room.
Yesterday, Rep. Jay Inslee (D-WA) rebuked the authors of SuperFreakonomics for participating in a “continuing effort to deceive the American public” on the science of climate change. During an investigative hearing on forged letters sent by the coal industry to oppose climate action, Inslee condemned the industry’s effort to [...]]]></description>
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<em>This is a <a href="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/10/29/inslee-condemns-superfreaks/">repost</a> from Wonk Room.</em></p>
<p>Yesterday, Rep. Jay Inslee (D-WA) rebuked the authors of <em>SuperFreakonomics</em> for participating in a “continuing effort to deceive the American public” on the science of climate change. During an investigative hearing on <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/29/accce-lies-underoath/">forged letters sent by the coal industry</a> to oppose climate action, Inslee condemned the industry’s effort to “hoodwink, defraud, and deceive the American public now to cover up the toxicity to the world environment” of global warming pollution. Inslee then turned to Steven Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner, criticizing them for “absolute deception” in their work on global warming:</p>
<blockquote><p>The second thing I want to note is <strong>this is not the only continuing effort to deceive the American public</strong>. I want to note a book called <em>Freakonomics</em>, or <em>SuperFreakonomics</em>, that some authors wrote, that basically said or asserted we don’t have to control CO2, we’ll just pump sulfur dioxide up into the atmosphere and that will solve the problem. They purported to quote a scientist named Ken Caldeira from Stanford who’s one of the predominant researchers in ocean acidification to suggest that Dr. Caldeira didn’t think we should control CO2. <strong>Which is an absolute deception</strong>. Dr. Caldeira I’ve spoken to personally. He’s told me we have to solve ocean acidification. You can’t solve ocean acidification without controlling CO2 and yet <strong>people are still trying to write books to deceive the American public</strong>. And we ought to blow the whistle on them, we’re blowing the whistle on one today, we’ll continue to do it, because ultimately science is going to triumph in this discussion.</p></blockquote>
<p><span id="more-13443"></span>Levitt and Dubner’s <a href="http://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/the-freakonomics-solution-to-finding-yourself-in-a-hole/">promotion of geoengineering</a> as a “<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/oct/21/superfreakonomics-climate-change-book-science">cheap and simple</a>” alternative to carbon mitigation is in direct opposition to the views of Dr. Ken Caldeira, <a href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/t1vn75m458373h63/fulltext.pdf">Paul Crutzen</a>, and the world’s <a href="../2009/10/21/18-leading-scientific-organizations-send-letter-to-senators-affirming-the-climate-is-changing-human-activities-are-the-primary-driver-impacts-are-projected-to-worsen-substantially-and-if-w/">scientific community</a>. Although Caldeira objected to the chapter and has since repeatedly said he was <a href="../2009/10/19/anatomy-of-a-debunking-yes-caldeira-says-superfreakonomics-is-damaging-to-me-because-it-is-an-inaccurate-portrayal-of-me-and-filled-with-many-statements-that-are-misleading-statements-a/">misrepresented</a> in <a href="http://pr.thinkprogress.org/2009/10/pr20091021">multiple ways</a>, the SuperFreakonomics authors have <a href="http://enviroknow.com/thesource/2009/10/29/superfreakonomics-crazytalk-you-cant-walk-it-back-after-going-off-the-deep-end/">continued</a> their <a href="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/10/28/stewart-superfreaky-wrong/">deception</a>, joining the billion-dollar effort by fossil-fuel companies and the radical right to thwart action on climate change.</p>
<p>Transcript:</p>
<blockquote><p>We have seen this movie before, and it was the exercise by the tobacco industry to try to hoodwink and cover up the science of the devastating toxicity that they were involved in for decades. And it actually worked for decades. And we have seen a similar effort to hoodwink, defraud, and deceive the American public now to cover up the toxicity to the world environment, and ultimately to our own health, of carbon dioxide and other climate change gases. They have used every trick in the book including the ones we will investigate today But I just want to note that they are now failing. The tobacco industry got its comeuppance, if you will, and justice triumphed ultimately.</p>
<p>And that’s what’s going on right now in the climate change debate. You see in the U.S. Senate, members of the U.S. Senate on a bipartisan basis finally coming out to move based on the science, which is now becoming dominant in the discussion.</p>
<p>The second thing I want to note is this is not the only continuing effort to deceive the American public.</p>
<p>I want to note a book called <em>Freakonomics</em>, or <em>SuperFreakonomics</em>, that some authors wrote, that basically said or asserted we don’t have to control CO2, we’ll just pump sulfur dioxide up into the atmosphere and that will solve the problem. They purported to quote a scientist named Ken Caldeira from Stanford who’s one of the predominant researchers in ocean acidification to suggest that Dr. Caldeira didn’t think we should control CO2. Which is an absolute deception. Dr. Caldeira I’ve spoken to personally. He’s told me we have to solve ocean acidification. You can’t solve ocean acidification without controlling CO2 and yet people are still trying to write books to deceive the American public. And we ought to blow the whistle on them, we’re blowing the whistle on one today, we’ll continue to do it, because ultimately science is going to triumph in this discussion.</p></blockquote>
<p>Update 1: The House Committee on Science and Technology will be holding a <a href="http://science.house.gov/Publications/hearings_markups_details.aspx?NewsID=2668">hearing on geoengineering</a> next Thursday, with witnesses including Dr. Ken Caldeira.</p>
<p><!-- post updates would go here in theory -->Update 2:  Inslee, beware! Steven Levitt has <a href="http://www.progressivereform.org/CPRBlog.cfm?idBlog=96B787E0-0320-2EF3-7973AC45E674985A">licked ocean acidification</a>, too:</p>
<blockquote><p>Of course, ocean acidification is an important issue. Now, there are ways to deal with ocean acidification, right, it&#8217;s actually, that&#8217;s actually, we know exactly how to un-acidify the oceans: it&#8217;s to <strong>pour a bunch of base into it</strong>, so, so if that turns out to be an incredibly big problem, then we can deal with that.</p></blockquote>
<p>Listen here:<br />
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Update 3:  At <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2009/10/dubner_falsely_claims_that_oce.php">Deltoid</a>, Tim Lambert notes when Dubner claimed &#8220;we routinely address the concerns that critics accuse us of ignoring (the problem of ocean acidification, e.g.),&#8221; he was lying.</p>
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<li><a title="Permanent Link to Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’:  New book pushes global cooling myths, sheer illogic, and “patent nonsense” — and the primary climatologist it relies on, Ken Caldeira, says “it is an inaccurate portrayal of me” and “misleading” in “many” places." rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/29/2009/10/27/2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/">Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’: New book pushes global cooling myths, sheer illogic, and “patent nonsense” — and the primary climatologist it relies on, Ken Caldeira, says “it is an inaccurate portrayal of me” and “misleading” in “many” places.</a></li>
<li><a title="Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’, Part 2:  Who else have Nathan Myhrvold and the Groupthinkers at Intellectual Ventures duped and confused?  Would you believe Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/29/2009/10/27/2009/10/12/2009/10/14/superfreakonomics-errors-nathan-myhrvold-intellectual-ventures-bill-gates-warren-buffet/">Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’, Part 2: Who else have Nathan Myhrvold and the Groupthinkers at Intellectual Ventures duped and confused? Would you believe Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’, Part 3:  It takes a village to debunk their anti-scientific nonsense, but why did they stop Amazon from allowing text searches?" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/29/2009/10/27/2009/10/16/science-error-superfreakonomics-why-stop-amazon-search/">Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’, Part 3: It takes a village to debunk their anti-scientific nonsense</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Error-riddled Superfreakonomics, Part 4:  They get the economics dead wrong, too, and their response to critics is full of misrepresentations, just like their book" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/29/2009/10/27/2009/10/17/error-superfreakonomics-krugman-economics-dead-wrong/">Error-riddled Superfreakonomics, Part 4: They get the economics dead wrong, too, and their response to critics is full of misrepresentations, just like their book</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Bloomberg interview of Dubner and Caldeira backs up my reporting on error-riddled Superfreakonomics.  Dubner is baffled that Caldeira ‘doesn’t believe geoengineering can work without cutting emissions.’" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/29/2009/10/27/2009/10/20/breaking-bloomberg-interview-of-dubner-and-caldeira-backs-up-my-account-dubner-is-baffled-that-caldeira-doesn%e2%80%99t-believe-geoengineering-can-work-without-cutting-emissions/">Bloomberg interview of Dubner and Caldeira backs up my reporting on error-riddled Superfreakonomics. Dubner is baffled that Caldeira ‘doesn’t believe geoengineering can work without cutting emissions.’</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Caldeira tells Yale e360:  “Thinking of geoengineering as a substitute for emissions reduction is analogous to saying, ‘Now that I’ve got the seatbelts on, I can just take my hands off the wheel and turn around and talk to people in the back seat.’ It’s crazy….  If I had to wager, I would wager that we would never deploy any geoengineering system.”" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/26/caldeira-interview-superfreakonomics-geoengineering/">Caldeira tells Yale e360: “Thinking of geoengineering as a substitute for emissions reduction is analogous to saying, ‘Now that I’ve got the seatbelts on, I can just take my hands off the wheel and turn around and talk to people in the back seat.’ It’s crazy…. If I had to wager, I would wager that we would never deploy any geoengineering system.”</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Must-read AP story:  Statisticians reject global cooling; Caldeira — “To talk about global cooling at the end of the hottest decade the planet has experienced in many thousands of years is ridiculous.”  Levitt “said he does not believe there is a cooling trend”!!" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/26/global-cooling-myth-statisticians-caldeira-superfreakonomics/">Must-read AP story: Statisticians reject global cooling; Caldeira — “To talk about global cooling at the end of the hottest decade the planet has experienced in many thousands of years is ridiculous.” Levitt “said he does not believe there is a cooling trend”!!</a></li>
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		<title>SuperFreaks claim book doesn’t have &#8220;a moral or policy perspective.&#8221;  Yet they wrote, &#8220;Any religion, meanwhile, has its heretics, and global warming is no exception&#8221; and warming is &#8220;at the forefront of public policy.&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday, SuperFreakonomics co-author Steven Levitt said his book&#8217;s erroneous statement on recent global temperature trends was just an attempt at &#8220;irony&#8221; (see Caldeira — “To talk about global cooling at the end of the hottest decade the planet has experienced in many thousands of years is ridiculous.” Levitt “said he does not believe there is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Yesterday, </em><em>SuperFreakonomics co-author Steven Levitt said his book&#8217;s erroneous statement on recent global temperature trends was just an attempt at &#8220;irony&#8221; (see <a title="Permanent Link to Must-read AP story:  Statisticians reject global cooling; Caldeira — “To talk about global cooling at the end of the hottest decade the planet has experienced in many thousands of years is ridiculous.”  Levitt “said he does not believe there is a cooling trend”!!" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/26/global-cooling-myth-statisticians-caldeira-superfreakonomics/">Caldeira — “To talk about global cooling at the end of the hottest decade the planet has experienced in many thousands of years is ridiculous.” Levitt “said he does not believe there is a cooling trend”!!</a>).</em></p>
<p><em>He and coauthor Stephen Dubner also continued their national <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">media</span> disinformation tour on public radio’s Diane Rehm Show.  I couldn&#8217;t stomach listening to their efforts to either walk back or obfuscate key errors and misrepresentations in their book <a title="Permanent Link to Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’, Part 3:  It takes a village to debunk their anti-scientific nonsense, but why did they stop Amazon from allowing text searches?" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/26/2009/10/16/science-error-superfreakonomics-why-stop-amazon-search/">error-riddled</a> book.  Wonk Room&#8217;s Brad Johnson has a stronger digestive system than I do, so he listened to the show and I&#8217;ll <a href="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/10/27/superfreak-no-morals/">repost his response</a>.</em></p>
<p>Levitt and Dubner dismissed the <a href="http://leftasanexercise.simulating-reality.com/?p=90">widespread criticism</a> of their book by <a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/17/superfreakonomics-on-climate-part-1/">Nobel Prize-winning economists</a> and climate scientists as the “work of an activist,” evidently referring to physicist and former Department of Energy official <a href="../2009/10/16/science-error-superfreakonomics-why-stop-amazon-search/">Joseph Romm</a>, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress. Levitt and Dubner even tried to laugh off the on-air criticism of Dr. Peter Frumhoff, a global change ecologist who is the director of Science and Policy at the <a href="http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/global_warming_contrarians/book-superfreakonomics.html">Union of Concerned Scientists</a> and a lead author for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. The authors represent their book as merely a quizzical look at interesting issues, without “a <a href="http://wamu.org/programs/dr/09/10/26.php#28773">moral or policy perspective</a>“:</p>
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<blockquote><p>Just in case you’re happening upon this conversation in the middle and haven’t grasped the kind of perspective that we’re coming from — <strong>we don’t write about prostitution, or terrorism, or global warming or any of these things, really, from a moral or policy perspective</strong>. We just try to lay out what’s going on and from that let people proceed how they want to think about it or how they want to draw conclusions. So <strong>this is not meant to be an endorsement or a condemnation</strong> of any of these things. We’re just trying to figure out what’s going on.</p></blockquote>
<p>[<em>JR:  In short, readers can safely ignore all of their conclusions.</em>]</p>
<p>Listen here:</p>
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<p>This depiction, like most of the SuperFreaks’ defense of their work, bears little resemblance to the actual text. The authors discuss global warming explicitly through a “policy perspective”:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is this specter of catastrophe, no matter how remote, that has propelled global warming to <strong>the forefront of public policy</strong>. . . . So how should we place a value on this relatively small chance of worldwide catastrophe? . . . One good reason for waiting is that we might have options in the future to avert the problem that cost far less than today’s options.</p></blockquote>
<p>The authors condemn a broad array existing policy efforts: to limit carbon dioxide emissions (”not the right villain”), to establish carbon pricing (”all we can say is good luck”), expand renewable energy (”cute”), limit deforestation (trees are an “environmental scourge”), clean up transportation (”not that big of a sector”), or reduce coal use (”economic suicide”).</p>
<p>They also discuss global warming explicitly through a “moral perspective,” condemning “the movement to stop global warming has taken on the feel of a religion,” with a “high priest,” “patron saint,” and “doomsayers” responsible for a “drumbeat of doom.” The authors quote Microsoft billionaire Nathan Myhrvold, who accuses advocates of policies other than geo-engineering of being “global-warming activists” who want to “do a set of things that could have enormous impact — and we think probably negative impact — on human life.”</p>
<p>On the other hand, the SuperFreaks provide a strong endorsement for pumping sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere forever as a “cheap and simple solution” that is “practically free” with a “proof of harmlessness.” Its biggest problem, they claim, is that it is “<em>too</em> simple and <em>too</em> cheap.” They claim climate scientist Ken Caldeira has endorsed this policy “solution,” but policymakers only listen to “people like Al Gore,” who think “it’s nuts.” Somehow Levitt and Dubner fail to mention that Caldeira himself has actually said the SuperFreaks’ <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/12343892/can_dr_evil_save_the_world/print">policy perspective is ridiculous</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>As a long-term strategy, it’s nuts.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Bizarrely, Levitt and Dubner never once mention the one policy area that is universally recognized as being “cheap and simple” by economists and scientists alike — boring <a href="http://scitizen.com/stories/Future-Energies/2009/01/Financing-the-Fifth-Fuel/">energy efficiency</a>. Guess they were too busy <a href="http://jezebel.com/5385667/superfreakonomics-authors-ask-why-arent-more-women-prostitutes">chatting with call girls</a> and <a href="http://www.physorg.com/news156423566.html">mosquito-laser billionaires</a>.</p>
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<div><span>Update</span>:  During the interview, Levitt dismisses ocean acidification as something that isn&#8217;t &#8220;an incredibly big problem,&#8221; concedes that geo-engineering &#8220;isn&#8217;t a perfect solution&#8221; and admits that &#8220;we won&#8217;t solve this without dealing with the carbon issue,&#8221; but then calls geo-engineering &#8220;a solution to a particular problem&#8221; (namely, the warming of the earth).</div>
<div>&#8211; Brad Johnson</div>
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<li><a title="Permanent Link to Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’, Part 3:  It takes a village to debunk their anti-scientific nonsense, but why did they stop Amazon from allowing text searches?" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/16/science-error-superfreakonomics-why-stop-amazon-search/">Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’, Part 3: It takes a village to debunk their anti-scientific nonsense</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Error-riddled Superfreakonomics, Part 4:  They get the economics dead wrong, too, and their response to critics is full of misrepresentations, just like their book" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/17/error-superfreakonomics-krugman-economics-dead-wrong/">Error-riddled Superfreakonomics, Part 4: They get the economics dead wrong, too, and their response to critics is full of misrepresentations, just like their book</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Bloomberg interview of Dubner and Caldeira backs up my reporting on error-riddled Superfreakonomics.  Dubner is baffled that Caldeira ‘doesn’t believe geoengineering can work without cutting emissions.’" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/20/breaking-bloomberg-interview-of-dubner-and-caldeira-backs-up-my-account-dubner-is-baffled-that-caldeira-doesn%e2%80%99t-believe-geoengineering-can-work-without-cutting-emissions/">Bloomberg interview of Dubner and Caldeira backs up my reporting on error-riddled Superfreakonomics. Dubner is baffled that Caldeira ‘doesn’t believe geoengineering can work without cutting emissions.’</a></li>
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		<title>Caldeira tells Yale e360:  “Thinking of geoengineering as a substitute for emissions reduction is analogous to saying, ‘Now that I’ve got the seatbelts on, I can just take my hands off the wheel and turn around and talk to people in the back seat.’ It’s crazy&#8230;.  If I had to wager, I would wager that we would never deploy any geoengineering system.&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yale Environment 360: I want to start with this little dust-up over SuperFreakonomics. In the book, you are quoted as saying, when it comes to global warming, “Carbon dioxide is not the right villain.” Is that accurate?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2201"><strong>Yale Environment 360</strong>: I want to start with this little dust-up over <em>SuperFreakonomics</em>. In the book, you are quoted as saying, when it comes to global warming, “Carbon dioxide is not the right villain.” Is that accurate?</a></p>
<p><strong>Ken Caldeira</strong>: That is not accurate. I don’t believe I said anything remotely like that because I believe that we should be outlawing the production of devices that emit carbon dioxide, and I don’t think we can solve this carbon climate problem unless we drastically reduce our carbon dioxide emissions very soon.</p>
<p><strong>e360</strong>: They also write that you are convinced that human activity is responsible for “some” global warming. What does that mean?</p>
<p><strong>Caldeira</strong>: I don’t think we can say with certainty whether we’re responsible for 90 percent of it or we might be responsible for 110 percent of it. But the vast majority of global warming, I believe, is due to human release of greenhouse gases to the atmosphere.</p>
<p><strong>e360</strong>: Another thing that plays in to the same kind of sensibility is the idea [which the book quotes Caldeira saying] that the &#8220;doubling of CO2 traps less than 2 percent of the outgoing radiation emitted by the Earth.&#8221; When that’s phrased like that, it makes it sound like it’s not really much of a problem.</p>
<p><strong>Caldeira</strong>: You should think of the whole global warming problem as a 1 percent problem, at least for doubling of CO2. In absolute temperature Kelvin — scientists like to use the Kelvin scale — the current Earth temperature is around 288 degrees Kelvin, and a 3-degree warming on top of that is basically a one-percent additional warming. And so this whole issue of climate change, when viewed from an Earth-system perspective, is a story about 1 percents and 2 percents. Two percent might sound like a small number, but that’s the difference between a much hotter world, and the kind of world we’re accustomed to&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>e360</strong>: Overall, do you feel like your work has been accurately and fairly represented in this book?</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p><strong>Caldeira</strong>: The main misrepresentation is the quote that says that CO2 is not “the right villain.” Now, again, I don’t use “villain” talk myself, but if you say what’s the primary gas responsible for the planetary warming, I would say it’s carbon dioxide.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Now, there’s a tougher question when it comes to the other statements that are attributed to me. All of those other statements are based in fact and based on studies that either I have published or other scientists have published. And if we pull back to the case of the biosphere taking up 70 percent of CO2 — well, yes, we have a published study that said that. It also presented results saying that we might warm up the planet enough to risk melting Antarctica ultimately. And so there is a selective use of quotes.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>If you spend several hours talking to somebody and they take a half-dozen things and put it in a book, then it’s going to be in the context and framing of arguments that the authors are trying to make. And so the actual statements attributed to me are based on fact, but the contexts and the framing of those issues are very different from the context and framing that I would put those same facts in&#8230;</p>
<p>So I think that the casual reader can &#8230; come up with a misimpression of what I believe and what I feel about things.</p></blockquote>
<p>None of Caldeira&#8217;s statements in this recent <a href="http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2201">Yale e360 interview</a> are a surprise if you read my original, accurate debunking &#8212; <a title="Permanent Link to Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’:  New book pushes global cooling myths, sheer illogic, and “patent nonsense” — and the primary climatologist it relies on, Ken Caldeira, says “it is an inaccurate portrayal of me” and “misleading” in “many” places." rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/">Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’: New book pushes global cooling myths, sheer illogic, and “patent nonsense” — and the primary climatologist it relies on, Ken Caldeira, says “it is an inaccurate portrayal of me” and “misleading” in “many” places.</a></p>
<p>And this all matches the <a title="Permanent Link to Bloomberg interview of Dubner and Caldeira backs up my reporting on error-riddled Superfreakonomics.  Dubner is baffled that Caldeira ‘doesn’t believe geoengineering can work without cutting emissions.’" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/20/breaking-bloomberg-interview-of-dubner-and-caldeira-backs-up-my-account-dubner-is-baffled-that-caldeira-doesn%e2%80%99t-believe-geoengineering-can-work-without-cutting-emissions/">Bloomberg interview of Dubner and Caldeira, which also backed up my reporting on error-riddled <em>Superfreakonomics</em></a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Caldeira, like the vast majority of climate scientists, believes cutting carbon dioxide and other greenhouse-gas emissions is our only real chance to avoid runaway climate change.<strong></strong></p>
<p><strong>“Carbon dioxide is the right villain,” Caldeira wrote on his Web site in reply. He told <a onmouseover="return escape( popwSearchNews( this ))" href="http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Joe+Romm&amp;site=wnews&amp;client=wnews&amp;proxystylesheet=wnews&amp;output=xml_no_dtd&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;filter=p&amp;getfields=wnnis&amp;sort=date:D:S:d1">Joe Romm</a>, the respected climate blogger who <a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="../2009/10/20/2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/" target="_blank">broke the story</a>, that he had objected to the “wrong villain” line but Dubner and Levitt didn’t correct it; instead, they added the “incredibly foolish” quote, a half step in the right direction. Caldeira gave the same account to me.</strong></p>
<p>Levitt and Dubner do say that the book “overstates” Caldeira’s position. That’s a weasel word: The book claims the opposite of what Caldeira believes. Caldeira told me the book contains “many errors” in addition to the “major error” of misstating his scientific opinion on carbon dioxide’s role….</p></blockquote>
<p>Although this made a lot of news, it really isn&#8217;t news.  Anyone who spends a great deal of time reading Caldeira&#8217;s work, communicating with and listening to him, as I have, would know instantly how directly at odds his views are with the entire <em>Superfreakonomics </em>chapter.</p>
<p>More newsworthy is Caldeira&#8217;s longer elaboration on his views of geoengineering and what the world&#8217;s overall approach to global warming should be:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>e360</strong>: Let’s talk a little bit more broadly about geoengineering. I was struck by something one of the authors said on NPR the other day — that he got interested in geoengineering when he realized that the problem with global warming is not that there is too much carbon in the air; it’s that it is too hot. Do you agree with that?</p>
<p><strong>Caldeira</strong>: The reason it is too hot is that there is too much carbon dioxide in the air. Now the carbon dioxide itself, of course, has big negative implications for ocean acidification and ecosystems, including coral reefs. So there are direct CO2 effects.</p>
<p>But I think if we had some magic thing that would reverse all effects of CO2 perfectly, then you could say, “Well the problem is not CO2.” But nobody really expects that we are going to have some magic, perfect CO2 nullifier. And it’s clear to me that if we continue allowing greenhouse gas concentration to grow in the atmosphere, and try to engineer our climate to counteract those effects, that as the greenhouse gases accumulate, and our counteracting system grows ever larger and larger, that the risk of some kind of catastrophic failure of this offsetting — or the imperfections in this offsetting — would grow in time and the net result would be pretty negative, I would imagine.</p>
<p>So, I do see CO2 as the problem. <em>I think to present it as if, “Well, it not’s really CO2, but the effects of CO2,” it’s like if you got shot by a bullet and you said, “Well, it wasn’t really the bullet that was the problem, it was just that I happened to have this hole through my body&#8230;”</em></p>
<p><strong>e360</strong>: Right. Well, a lot of people think of geoengineering as a quick and cheap fix for global warming. Is it?</p>
<p><strong>Caldeira</strong>: <em>Let’s pretend for a moment that putting dust in the stratosphere is easy to do and works reasonably well. And let’s say the United States and England and the “Coalition of the Willing” decided to go ahead and deploy this system, and that China or India then went into a decade or two of deep drought. Whether the system caused that drought or not, I think the Chinese or the Indians would rightly suspect that the reason they have this drought and ensuing famines might be due to this system that was put up by these other countries. And you could easily imagine that there would be a great amount of political tension, and possibly even leading to warfare. So I think just the political dimensions and the governance dimensions of these geoengineering options suggest that we would be very reluctant to deploy these things, even if we thought they worked more or less perfectly.</em></p>
<p>Another example is that, in many climate model simulations, the area around Egypt tends to get wetter with global warming. And so what if you do this geoengineering scheme and it takes away water from countries that didn’t have water a few centuries ago? Are they are going to be happy you’re doing this? So I think just the political problems associated with perceived winners and losers are so great that a politician is not going to want to deal with these problems.</p>
<p>Then, of course, the system is <em>not</em> going to work perfectly. First of all, it’s not going to address the issues of ocean acidification. It’s not going to perfectly offset global warming, so you’ll have some residual effects. So, I look at these geoengineering options as something we would only want to consider if our backs were really up against the wall, and where all these environmental and political risks seem worth taking because the alternatives look so frightening.</p>
<p><strong>e360</strong>: I know that some scientists have suggested that there should be some kind of taboo on geoengineering research. But I know that you’ve been outspoken in the need for a federally-funded geoengineering research program. Can you explain that?</p>
<p><strong>Caldeira</strong>: Yes, I think we don’t know right now whether these kinds of approaches have the potential to reduce risk or not. In our climate models, the amount of climate change can be reduced by these kinds of approaches, but the climate models are an imperfect reflection of reality, and they don’t consider the kinds of political risks that I was mentioning before. And so I think we just have to say we don’t know whether these options can really reduce overall risk…</p>
<p>Let’s say geoengineering <em>doesn’t</em> work, and that it would add to risk. It seems to me it would be worth having a research program to demonstrate that beyond a reasonable doubt so we can all forget about this and move on.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if these options <em>do</em> have the potential to reduce risk, then it seems to me that we would like to have the option to reduce that risk should a time come where that would seem necessary. I kind of think of these geoengineering options as seeing, “Well, can we invent some kind of seatbelts for our climate system?” We need to drive the climate system carefully, we need to greatly reduce emissions. But even if we’re driving carefully we still run the risk of getting into an accident. And seatbelts can potentially reduce the damage when we’re in an accident.</p>
<p>But the reason I’m concerned about geoengineering is because I am so concerned about greenhouse gas emissions, and so, again, I’m in favor of essentially making greenhouse gas-emitting devices illegal. But I don’t think we’re going to reduce emissions fast enough to make me feel that we’re not running some really grave risks. And so I think we need to develop options to diminish those risks.</p>
<p>And it’s not just geoengineering. I’m much in favor of a very broad-spectrum approach. I think one of the things we saw with the subprime mortgage crisis is that a few million people in the United States defaulted on their mortgages and we have a worldwide economic crisis. I think we have to assume that climate change damage will be a much bigger amplitude than a few million mortgage defaults.</p>
<p>If there’s some kind of climate crisis in Southeast Asia, is that going to amplify and shake the whole global economic system? This is the kind of thing that Jim Lovelock is afraid of, that you’ll have “economic migrants” resulting from climate change that will ultimately destabilize modern civilization.</p>
<p>And so I think we also need to be doing research in how do we make our society more robust, so that these local climate damages won’t turn into global problems. We need to be doing basic adaptation planning; we need to look at geoengineering options. But the main thing we need to do is work to eliminate carbon dioxide emissions.</p>
<p><em>But thinking of geoengineering as a substitute for emissions reduction is analogous to saying, “Now that I’ve got the seatbelts on, I can’t just take my hands off the wheel and turn around and talk to people in the back seat.” It’s crazy.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The authors of <em>SuperFreakonomics</em> simply never understood what the chief climatologist they interviewed believed about the central thesis of their chapter, As Bloomberg <a href="../2009/10/20/breaking-bloomberg-interview-of-dubner-and-caldeira-backs-up-my-account-dubner-is-baffled-that-caldeira-doesn%E2%80%99t-believe-geoengineering-can-work-without-cutting-emissions/">reported</a> last week:</p>
<blockquote><p>Caldeira, who is researching the idea [of aerosol geoengineering], argues that it can succeed only if we first reduce emissions. Otherwise, he says, geoengineering can’t begin to cope with the collateral damage, such as acidic oceans killing off shellfish.</p>
<p><strong>Levitt and Dubner ignore his view and champion his work as a permanent substitute for emissions cuts. When I told Dubner that Caldeira doesn’t believe geoengineering can work without cutting emissions, he was baffled. “I don’t understand how that could be,” he said. In other words, the <em>Freakonomics</em> guys just flunked climate science.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>And ironically, the <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">&#8220;polymath&#8217;s polymath&#8221;</span> contrarian&#8217;s contrarian apparently agrees with Caldeira in opposing the geoengineering-only approach &#8212; although Nathan Myhrvold apparently never understood what the Superfreaks actually wrote in their chapter and the Superfreaks apparently never understood what the former Microsoft CTO actually believed!  See <a title="Permanent Link to Nathan Myhrvold jumps the shark — and jumps ship on Levitt and Dubner (on their blog!) asserting:  “Geoengineering is proposed only as a last resort to try to reduce or cope with the even greater harms of global warming! … The point of the chapter in SuperFreakonomics is that geoengineering might be good insurance in case we don’t get global warming under control.”  Did he even read the book?" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/20/nathan-myhrvold-levitt-and-dubner-geoengineering-superfreakonomics/">Nathan Myhrvold jumps the shark — and jumps ship on Levitt and Dubner (on their blog!) asserting: “Geoengineering is proposed only as a last resort to try to reduce or cope with the even greater harms of global warming! … The point of the chapter in SuperFreakonomics is that geoengineering might be good insurance in case we don’t get global warming under control.” Did he even read the book?</a></p>
<p>One final quote that I think might surprise a great many people who don&#8217;t know Caldeira, who got their entire misimpression of him from <em>Superfreakonomics</em>:</p>
<blockquote><p>If I had to wager, I would wager that we would never deploy any geoengineering system&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you want to know what Caldeira thinks <em>will</em> happen, you can listen to Caldeira&#8217;s entire interview with journalist Jeff Goodell on <a href="http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2201">the Yale e360 website</a>.</p>
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<li><a title="Permanent Link to Exclusive:  Caldeira calls the vision of Lomborg’s Climate Consensus “a dystopic world out of a science fiction story”" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/09/05/caldeira-delayer-lomborg-copenhagen-climate-consensus-geoengineering/">Exclusive:  Caldeira calls the vision of Lomborg’s Climate Consensus “a dystopic world out of a science fiction story”</a></li>
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		<title>Nathan Myhrvold jumps the shark &#8212; and jumps ship on Levitt and Dubner (on their blog!) asserting:  &#8220;Geoengineering is proposed only as a last resort to try to reduce or cope with the even greater harms of global warming! &#8230; The point of the chapter in SuperFreakonomics is that geoengineering might be good insurance in case we don’t get global warming under control.&#8221;  Did he even read the book?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Un-friggin-believable.
Nathan Myhrvold, who Levitt and Dubner call the &#8220;polymath’s polymath&#8221; &#8212; who is one of the primary &#8220;experts&#8221; the authors rely on to make the case for their central geoengineering-only approach to global warming &#8212; has just publicly repudiated that approach. Apparently he never read the chapter &#8212; or didn&#8217;t understand it if he did.  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Un-friggin-believable.</p>
<p><strong>Nathan Myhrvold, who Levitt and Dubner call the &#8220;polymath’s polymath&#8221; &#8212; who is one of the primary &#8220;experts&#8221; the authors rely on to make the case for their central geoengineering-only approach to global warming &#8212; has just publicly repudiated that approach.</strong> Apparently he never read the chapter &#8212; or didn&#8217;t understand it if he did.  And apparently in their rush to print this &#8220;rebuttal&#8221; to my debunkings, the Superfreaks didn&#8217;t bother to read it closely, since he just wrote this jaw-dropper <a href="http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/20/are-solar-panels-really-black-and-what-does-that-have-to-do-with-the-climate-debate/">on their blog</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Geoengineering is proposed only as a last resort to try to reduce or cope with the even greater harms of global warming!</p>
<p>&#8230; The point of the chapter in <em>SuperFreakonomics</em> is that geoengineering might be good insurance in case we don’t get global warming under control.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can&#8217;t make this stuff up.</p>
<p>As the Union of Concerned Scientists posted <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/10/20/breaking-bloomberg-interview-of-dubner-and-caldeira-backs-up-my-account-dubner-is-baffled-that-caldeira-doesn%E2%80%99t-believe-geoengineering-can-work-without-cutting-emissions/comment-page-1/#comment-167529">here</a> about Myhrvold&#8217;s amazing <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">defense</span> repudiation of <em>Superfreakonomics</em>:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>That is exactly the opposite of what the book argues and represents a complete repudiation of the chapter from one of the main sources on which Levitt and Dubner relied.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Or go to the <a title="Bloomberg interview of Dubner and Caldeira backs up my reporting on error-riddled Superfreakonomics.  Dubner is baffled that Caldeira “doesn’t believe geoengineering can work without cutting emissions.”" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/20/breaking-bloomberg-interview-of-dubner-and-caldeira-backs-up-my-account-dubner-is-baffled-that-caldeira-doesn%e2%80%99t-believe-geoengineering-can-work-without-cutting-emissions/">Bloomberg interview of Dubner and Caldeira that backs up my reporting on error-riddled <em>Superfreakonomics</em></a> for an independent view of what the book is about &#8212; and what the authors think the book is about:</p>
<blockquote><p>Caldeira, who is researching the idea [of aerosol geoengineering], argues that it can succeed only if we first reduce emissions. Otherwise, he says, geoengineering can’t begin to cope with the collateral damage, such as acidic oceans killing off shellfish.</p>
<p><strong>Levitt and Dubner ignore his view and champion his work as a permanent substitute for emissions cuts. When I told Dubner that Caldeira doesn’t believe geoengineering can work without cutting emissions, he was baffled. “I don’t understand how that could be,” he said. In other words, the <em>Freakonomics</em> guys just flunked climate science.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Are you baffled also?  The two leading experts (well, one expert and one <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/10/14/superfreakonomics-errors-nathan-myhrvold-intellectual-ventures-bill-gates-warren-buffet/">F.A.K.E.R.</a>) that Dubner and Leavitt relied on for their geoengineering-only solution don&#8217;t believe in it!  Well, Caldeira doesn&#8217;t believe in it.  As we&#8217;ll see, it&#8217;s impossible to figure out what Myhrvold believes.</p>
<p>Myhrvold is not a &#8221;polymath’s polymath.&#8221;  He repudiates the Superfreaks, so he&#8217;s a contrarian&#8217;s contrarian.</p>
<p>Why exactly does Myhrvold think the Superfreaks were so desperate to push the (incorrect) statement about Caldeira that his “research tells him that carbon dioxide is not the right villain”?  Since the Superfreaks made me take the PDF of the book down, go to the NPR interview of Levitt (transcript <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113899727">here</a>):</p>
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<blockquote><p>So we&#8217;re not &#8211; look, I&#8217;m not a scientist and Steven Dubner&#8217;s not a scientist either, but we&#8217;ve managed to interact with some of the greatest scientists in this country. I think what we conclude is that the nature of the debate is just completely wrong. The real problem isn&#8217;t that there&#8217;s too much carbon in the air. The real problem is it&#8217;s too hot.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ouch.  But now it looks like the greatest scientists in this country don&#8217;t even agree with them.</p>
<p>Read the <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6879251.ece"><em>Times</em> online excerpt</a> whose subhead actually claims “This time they claim that CO2 may be good”!</p>
<p>The book itself says:</p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s not that we don&#8217;t know how to stop polluting the atmosphere. We don&#8217;t want to stop or aren&#8217;t willing to pay the price.</p></blockquote>
<p>And then there is Myhrvold himself in the book &#8212; for extended quotes see &#8220;<a title="Permanent Link to Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’, Part 2:  Who else have Nathan Myhrvold and the Groupthinkers at Intellectual Ventures duped and confused?  Would you believe Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/14/superfreakonomics-errors-nathan-myhrvold-intellectual-ventures-bill-gates-warren-buffet/">Error-riddled Superfreakonomics’, Part 2</a>&#8220;:</p>
<blockquote><p>“If you believe that the scary stories could be true, or even possible, then you should also admit that relying only on reducing carbon-dioxide emissions is not a very good answer,” he says.  In other words:  it’s illogical to believe in a carbon-induced warming apocalypse and believe that such an apocalypse can be averted simply by curtailing new carbon emissions.  “The scary scenarios could occur even if we make Herculean efforts to reduce our emissions, in which case the only real answer is geo-engineering.”</p></blockquote>
<p>As I said in <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/">Part 1</a>, not only is it not illogical, but I suspect most of the world’s leading climate scientists believe that if you could curtail all new carbon emissions (including from deforestation) starting now (or even starting soon), you would indeed avoid apocaplyse.  In fact, <strong>as Caldeira makes clear, the reverse of Myrhvold’s final statement is true:  ONLY if we make Herculean efforts to reduce our emissions, could geo-engineering possibly contribute to the solution.</strong></p>
<p>But Myhrvold says (from the <em>Times</em> online excerpt):</p>
<blockquote><p>Myhrvold is not arguing for an immediate deployment of the sulphur shield but, rather, that technologies like it be researched and tested so they are ready to use if the worst climate predictions come true.</p></blockquote>
<p>Good for him.  He&#8217;s &#8221;not arguing for an immediate deployment&#8221; of something that doesn&#8217;t exist.  Good strategy.  If only his former company, Microsoft, had applied that approach with the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista">Windows Vista operating system</a>.  Zing!</p>
<p>So why is he pushing this approach?</p>
<blockquote><p>He is also eager to get geoengineering moving forward because of what he sees as “a real head of steam” that global warming activists have gathered in recent years.</p>
<p><strong>“They are seriously proposing doing a set of things that could have enormous impact — and we think probably negative impact — on human life,” he says. “They want to divert a huge amount of economic value toward immediate and precipitous anti-carbon initiatives, without thinking things through.</strong></p>
<p><strong>“This will have a huge drag on the world economy. There are billions of poor people who will be greatly delayed, if not entirely precluded, from attaining a First World standard of living.”</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, those extremist, nutty &#8220;global warming activists&#8221; &#8212; like, say, climatologist Ken Caldeira himself who has said:</p>
<blockquote><p>I believe the correct CO2 emission target is zero. <strong>I believe that it is essentially immoral for us to be making devices (automobiles, coal power plants, etc) that use the atmosphere as a sewer for our waste products.  I am in favor of outlawing production of such devices as soon as possible</strong>….</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Every carbon dioxide emission adds to climate damage and increasing risk of catastrophic consequences. There is no safe level of emission.</p>
<p>I compare CO2 emissions to mugging little old ladies … It is wrong to mug little old ladies and wrong to emit carbon dioxide to the atmosphere. The right target for both mugging little old ladies and carbon dioxide emissions is zero.</p>
<p>I am in favor of fire insurance but I am also against playing with matches while sitting on a keg of gunpowder. I am in favor of research into geoengineering options but I am also against carbon dioxide emissions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nathan is apparently pushing geo-engineering research because people like Caldeira (and me) want to immediately and precipitously cut carbon.</p>
<p>But wait, Myhrvold now says on the Superfreaks blog:</p>
<blockquote><p>Geoengineering is proposed only as a last resort to try to reduce or cope with the even greater harms of global warming! The global-warming community has treated us to one scary scenario after another. Some are predicted by the science, some are extrapolations beyond current science, and some are not much better than wild guesses, but they could happen. <strong>Should we fail at cutting enough and those things occur, geoengineering might offer a better option&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>This kind of attack [by Romm] makes it very difficult for people to suggest new ideas. I have thick enough skin to laugh it off when Romm attacks me, but plenty of people don’t. The politicization of science has a terrible impact on the unfettered discourse of ideas that is so important to making progress. This has been a big impediment to geoengineering. <strong>Serious climate scientists who are privately interested in geoengineering are loathe to discuss it publicly because they worry that somebody like Romm will attack and ridicule them if they do. Indeed, part of the reason I chose to work on geoengineering and chose to go public about it is to try to get the topic to be more widely discussed. </strong></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The point of the chapter in <em>SuperFreakonomics</em> is that geoengineering might be good insurance in case we don’t get global warming under control.<a title="Permanent Link to Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’, Part 2:  Who else have Nathan Myhrvold and the Groupthinkers at Intellectual Ventures duped and confused?  Would you believe Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/14/superfreakonomics-errors-nathan-myhrvold-intellectual-ventures-bill-gates-warren-buffet/"></a></p></blockquote>
<p>Except, of course, I have only been attacking and ridiculing people who support the geoengineering-only approach &#8212; the very approach that Myhrvold himself utterly rejects here.</p>
<p>Yes, good old reasonable Nathan Myhrvold, who just sees geoengineering as an insurance policy &#8220;in case we don’t get global warming under control.&#8221;  But then, of course, he trashes the &#8220;global warming activists&#8221; who want to do just that in the book.  It is Myhrvold and the Superfreaks who have poisoned the dialogue.  Indeed, they go out of their way to attack and ridicule those who want to try to get global warming under control sans geoengineering.  As I note in &#8220;<a title="Permanent Link to Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’, Part 2:  Who else have Nathan Myhrvold and the Groupthinkers at Intellectual Ventures duped and confused?  Would you believe Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/14/superfreakonomics-errors-nathan-myhrvold-intellectual-ventures-bill-gates-warren-buffet/">Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’, Part 2,</a>&#8220; Myhrvold and the <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">geniuses</span> groupthinkers at IV, however, dismiss all of the solutions:</p>
<blockquote><p>In the darkened conference room, Myhrvold cues up an overhead slide that summarizes IV’s views of the current slate of proposed global warming solutions.  The slide says:</p></blockquote>
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<ul>
<li>Too little</li>
<li>Too late</li>
<li>Too optimistic.</li>
</ul>
<p><em>Too little</em> means that typical conservation efforts simply won’t make much of a difference. “If you believe there is a problem worth solving,” Myhrvold says, “then these solutions won’t be enough to solve it.  <strong>Wind power and most other alternative energy things are cute, but they don’t scale to a sufficient degree. </strong> At this point, wind farms are a government subsidy scheme, fundamentally.”  What about the beloved Prius and other low-emissions vehicles?  “They’re great,” he says, “except that <strong>transportation is just not that big of a sector.”<br />
</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>[<em>Pause for laughter.  Then for weeping.</em>]</p>
<p>Yes, as I noted, globally “<a href="http://www.iccr-international.org/foresight/docs/monitoring/Environment/CO2%20emissions%20of%20%20transport%20sector.pdf">Transport accounts for around a quarter of total CO2 emissions</a>.”  In fact, transport is the key sector, because reducing carbon emissions in electricity generation is so damn easy (see “<a id="destacado_4052" title="An introduction to the core climate solutions" href="../2009/10/14/2008/10/22/an-introduction-to-the-core-climate-solutions/">An introduction to the core climate solutions</a>“).</p>
<p>That’s why I call Myhrvold and his ilk, F.A.K.E.R.s — Famous “Authorities” whose Knowledge (of climate) is Error-riddled.</p>
<p>And, then we get this multi-whopper piece of nonsense:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Too optimistic</em>:  “A lot of the things that people say would be good things probably aren’t,” Myrhvold says.  As an example he points to solar power.  “The problem with solar cells is that they’re black, because they are designed to absorb light from the sun. But only about 12% gets turned into electricity, and the rest is reradiated as heat — which contributed to global warming.”</p></blockquote>
<p>As discussed in <a href="../2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/">Part 1</a>, this may set the FAKER record for howlers in one paragraph.</p>
<p>In his &#8220;rebuttal,&#8221; Myhrvold never actually debunks the central critique I make of that paragraph.  I have a little bombshell to drop on that tomorrow, which some readers have asked to see, so for now, let me end by noting one typically nonsensical thing Myhrvold says in his rambling, ad hominem attack on me:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Strangely, he gives comparatively little attention to the main point of the chapter, which is geoengineering. </strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Please do go check the quote at the Freakonomics blog <a href="http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/20/are-solar-panels-really-black-and-what-does-that-have-to-do-with-the-climate-debate/">here</a>.</p>
<p>I give &#8220;comparatively little attention to the main point of the chapter, which is geoengineering.&#8221;???  You can&#8217;t make this stuff up &#8212; unless of course you&#8217;re a &#8221;polymath’s polymath.&#8221;</p>
<p>So now we know that not only didn&#8217;t he read the chapter of <em>SuperFreakonomics</em> he is <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">defending</span> <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">repudiating</span> <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">defending</span> repudiating, he didn&#8217;t even bother to read &#8220;<a title="Permanent Link to Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’:  New book pushes global cooling myths, sheer illogic, and “patent nonsense” — and the primary climatologist it relies on, Ken Caldeira, says “it is an inaccurate portrayal of me” and “misleading” in “many” places." rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/">Error-riddled <em>Superfreakonomics</em>, Part 1</a>,&#8221; which he links to in his <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">defense </span>repudiation (!), in which I repost Caldeira&#8217;s devastating critique of the geoengineering-only approach  (and add some of my own) or &#8220;<a title="Permanent Link to Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’, Part 2:  Who else have Nathan Myhrvold and the Groupthinkers at Intellectual Ventures duped and confused?  Would you believe Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/14/superfreakonomics-errors-nathan-myhrvold-intellectual-ventures-bill-gates-warren-buffet/">Error-riddled <em>Superfreakonomics</em>, Part 2</a>,&#8221; which focuses on him, in which I actually repost Robock&#8217;s entire critique of the geoengineering-only approach, complete with citations.</p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p>His post vindicates my original assessment.</p>
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<blockquote><p>I believe the correct CO2 emission target is zero. I believe that it is essentially immoral for us to be making devices (automobiles, coal power plants, etc) that use the atmosphere as a sewer for our waste products.  I am in favor of outlawing production of such devices as soon as possible….</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Every carbon dioxide emission adds to climate damage and increasing risk of catastrophic consequences. There is no safe level of emission.</p>
<p>I compare CO2 emissions to mugging little old ladies … It is wrong to mug little old ladies and wrong to emit carbon dioxide to the atmosphere. The right target for both mugging little old ladies and carbon dioxide emissions is zero.</p>
<p>I am in favor of fire insurance but I am also against playing with matches while sitting on a keg of gunpowder. I am in favor of research into geoengineering options but I am also against carbon dioxide emissions.</p>
<p>Carbon dioxide emissions represent a real threat to humans and natural systems, and I fear we may have already dawdled too long. That is why I want to see research into geoengineering — because the threat posed by CO2 is real and large, not because the threat is imaginary and small.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Bloomberg interview of Dubner and Caldeira backs up my reporting on error-riddled Superfreakonomics.  Dubner is baffled that Caldeira &#8216;doesn’t believe geoengineering can work without cutting emissions.&#8217;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Caldeira, like the vast majority of climate scientists, believes cutting carbon dioxide and other greenhouse-gas emissions is our only real chance to avoid runaway climate change.
“Carbon dioxide is the right villain,” Caldeira wrote on his Web site in reply. He told Joe Romm, the respected climate blogger who broke the story, that he had objected [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Caldeira, like the vast majority of climate scientists, believes cutting carbon dioxide and other greenhouse-gas emissions is our only real chance to avoid runaway climate change.<strong></strong></p>
<p><strong>“Carbon dioxide is the right villain,” Caldeira wrote on his Web site in reply. He told <a onmouseover="return escape( popwSearchNews( this ))" href="http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Joe+Romm&amp;site=wnews&amp;client=wnews&amp;proxystylesheet=wnews&amp;output=xml_no_dtd&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;filter=p&amp;getfields=wnnis&amp;sort=date:D:S:d1">Joe Romm</a>, the respected climate blogger who <a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="../2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/" target="_blank">broke the story</a>, that he had objected to the “wrong villain” line but Dubner and Levitt didn’t correct it; instead, they added the “incredibly foolish” quote, a half step in the right direction. Caldeira gave the same account to me.</strong></p>
<p>Levitt and Dubner do say that the book “overstates” Caldeira’s position. That’s a weasel word: The book claims the opposite of what Caldeira believes. <strong>Caldeira told me the book contains “many errors” in addition to the “major error” of misstating his scientific opinion on carbon dioxide’s role&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>Caldeira, who is researching the idea [of aerosol geoengineering], argues that it can succeed only if we first reduce emissions. Otherwise, he says, geoengineering can’t begin to cope with the collateral damage, such as acidic oceans killing off shellfish.</p>
<p><strong>Levitt and Dubner ignore his view and champion his work as a permanent substitute for emissions cuts. When I told Dubner that Caldeira doesn’t believe geoengineering can work without cutting emissions, he was baffled. “I don’t understand how that could be,” he said. In other words, the <em>Freakonomics</em> guys just flunked climate science.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s award-winning journalist Eric Pooley in his terrific Bloomberg story today, &#8220;<a href=" http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&amp;sid=aVKXZg_Z.vMY"><em>Freakonomics</em> Guys Flunk Science of Climate Change</a>.&#8221; Pooley  has been managing editor of <em>Fortune</em>, national editor of <em>Time</em>, <em>Time</em>’s chief political correspondent, and <em>Time</em>’s White House correspondent, where he won the Gerald Ford Prize for  Excellence in Reporting.  His story vindicates my original reporting in <a id="destacado_12514" title="Error-riddled 'Superfreakonomics':  New book pushes global cooling myths, sheer illogic, and patent nonsense -- and the primary climatologist it relies on, Ken Caldeira, says it is an inaccurate portrayal of me and misleading in many places." href="../2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/">Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’: New book pushes global cooling myths, sheer illogic, and patent nonsense — and the primary climatologist it relies on, Ken Caldeira, says it is an inaccurate portrayal of me and misleading in many places.</a></p>
<p>For me, the &#8220;villain&#8221; quote was not actually the main issue.  <strong>The main issue for me was the misrepresentation of Caldeira&#8217;s core belief that you have to cut emissions dramatically for geoengineering to even have a chance of making any sense.</strong></p>
<p>That misrepresented view is the one that actually represents a real threat to humanity &#8212; should enough people come to believe it.  That&#8217;s why I am still writing about this &#8212; that, and the fact that <strong>the Superfreaks are going to be spreading their confused misrepresentations for weeks to come</strong>.  Their amazing <a href="http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/superfreakonomics-tour-info-etc/">press schedule is here</a> &#8212; they&#8217;re getting a full hour on <em>20/20</em> on Friday, plus <em>Good Morning America </em>(twice!) and <em>The Daily Show</em>.</p>
<p><span id="more-12912"></span>Who can really be opposed to geo-engineering <em>research</em> &#8212; as long as humanity is NOT foolish enough to come to believe that pursuing geo-engineering research is a substitute for aggressively reducing emissions starting now?  Secondarily, it would be a mistake to believe with any certainty that such research will in fact ever lead to a viable and practical &#8220;cooling&#8221; strategy.  But, of course, calling for &#8220;research&#8221; into geo-engineering as Caldeira does would hardly form the basis of a particularly provocative chapter in a contrarian book seeking publicity and best-sellerhood.</p>
<p>When I first saw the PDF of the <em>Superfreakonomics</em> chapter, I knew that it had utterly misrepresented Caldeira&#8217;s view.  How did I know that?  First, I can read.</p>
<p>In September, Juliet Eilperin of the <em>Washington Post</em> had <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/09/05/caldeira-delayer-lomborg-copenhagen-climate-consensus-geoengineering/">a story</a> about Bjorn Lomborg who had proposed the exact same geoengineering-only approach, which noted:</p>
<blockquote><p>Several scientists questioned whether focusing on geoengineered solutions at the expense of major carbon reductions would adequately address the effects of climate change. Carnegie Institution senior scientist Ken Caldeira, a geoengineering expert, said such a strategy “misses the point.”</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><strong>“Geoengineering is not an alternative to carbon emissions reductions,” he said. “If emissions keep going up and up, and you use geoengineering as a way to deal with it, it’s pretty clear the endgame of that process is pretty ugly.”</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Pretty clear, no?</p>
<p>Second, in an email interview, I sent Caldeira an email titled, &#8220;Can you elaborate on <em>Washington Post</em> quote.&#8221;  The full contents of that email were a reprinting of the quote followed by &#8220;Can you explain this for my readers?  Have you or someone else written about this?&#8221;</p>
<p>I reprinted his full reply here on September 5 &#8212; <a title="Permanent Link to Exclusive:  Caldeira calls the vision of Lomborg’s Climate Consensus “a dystopic world out of a science fiction story”" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/09/05/caldeira-delayer-lomborg-copenhagen-climate-consensus-geoengineering/">Exclusive:  Caldeira calls the vision of Lomborg’s Climate Consensus “a dystopic world out of a science fiction story.”</a> Here is an excerpt (the ellipsis is his):</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Nobody has written about this that I know of, but ….<br />
</em><br />
<strong> If we keep emitting greenhouse gases with the intent of offsetting the global warming with ever increasing loadings of particles in the stratosphere, we will be heading to a planet with extremely high greenhouse gases and a thick stratospheric haze that we would need to main more-or-less indefinitely. This seems to be a dystopic world out of a science fiction story. </strong>First, we can assume the oceans have been heavily acidified with shellfish and corals largely a thing of the past. We can assume that ecosystems will be greatly affected by the high CO2 / low sunlight conditions — similar to what Earth experienced hundreds of millions years ago. The sunlight would likely be very diffuse — maybe good for portrait photography, but with unknown consequences for ecosystems.</p>
<p>We know also that CO2 and sunlight affect Earth’s climate system in different ways. For the same amount of change in rainfall, CO2 affects temperature more than sunlight, so if we are to try to correct for changes in precipitation patterns, we will be left with some residual warming that would grow with time.</p>
<p>And what will this increasing loading of particles in the stratosphere do to the ozone layer and the other parts of Earth’s climate system that we depend on?</p></blockquote>
<p>So that&#8217;s how I knew when I was sent the <em>Superfreakonomics</em> chapter on October 9th (by someone familiar with my reporting on Caldeira and geoengineering) that it had misrepresented his views utterly.  And that&#8217;s why I sent him this email (sorry for the repetition here, but this is for completeness&#8217; sake):</p>
<blockquote><p>Ken</p>
<p>You need to read this and see how your words have been taken out of context and give me a reply (by Sunday, if possible)….</p>
<p>Lines about you like (page 184) “Yet his research tells him carbon dioxide is not the right villain in this fight” seriously abuse your reputation and your extensive publications and warnings about the threat of ocean acidification….</p>
<p>I’d like to do a major reply.  I have attached the entire chapter for you to read (and you can confirm it is genuine by going to Amazon and searching for your name).</p>
<p>I’d like a quote like, “The authors of Superfreakonomics have utterly misrepresented my work.” plus whatever else you want to say.</p>
<p>I assume you stand by the Post quote:</p>
<p>“Geoengineering is not an alternative to carbon emissions reductions,” he said. “If emissions keep going up and up, and you use geoengineering as a way to deal with it, it’s pretty clear the endgame of that process is pretty ugly.”</p>
<p>and your email to me, including “dystopic world out of a science fiction story” that I can requote.</p>
<p><a href="../2009/09/05/caldeira-delayer-lomborg-copenhagen-climate-consensus-geoengineering/">http://climateprogress.org/ 2009/ 09/ 05/ caldeira-delayer-lomborg-copenhagen-climate-consensus-geoengineering/</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Was it wrong for me to ask him for a quote like that?  Again, from my perspective I was in an extended interview with him on this precise subject, so I knew exactly where he stood.</p>
<p>I respect Pooley a great deal, and I asked him for his answer to that question, which I reprint at the end.  But first, I&#8217;m going to reprint <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&amp;sid=aVKXZg_Z.vMY">his entire story</a> because it&#8217;s just that good &#8212; and the context is important:</p>
<blockquote><p>Oct. 20 (Bloomberg) &#8212; <a onmouseover="return escape( popwSearchNews( this ))" href="http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Steven+D.+Levitt&amp;site=wnews&amp;client=wnews&amp;proxystylesheet=wnews&amp;output=xml_no_dtd&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;filter=p&amp;getfields=wnnis&amp;sort=date:D:S:d1">Steven D. Levitt</a> and <a onmouseover="return escape( popwSearchNews( this ))" href="http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Stephen+J.%0ADubner&amp;site=wnews&amp;client=wnews&amp;proxystylesheet=wnews&amp;output=xml_no_dtd&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;filter=p&amp;getfields=wnnis&amp;sort=date:D:S:d1">Stephen J. Dubner</a> are so good at tweaking conventional wisdom that their first book, “<a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="http://www.freakonomicsbook.com/" target="_blank">Freakonomics</a>,” sold 4 million copies. So when Dubner, an old friend, told me their new book would take on climate change, I was rooting for a breakthrough idea.</p>
<p>No such luck. In “<a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="http://www.amazon.com/SuperFreakonomics-Cooling-Patriotic-Prostitutes-Insurance/dp/0060889578" target="_blank">SuperFreakonomics</a>,” their brave new climate thinking turns out to be the same pile of misinformation the skeptic crowd has been peddling for years.</p>
<p>“Obviously, provocation is not last on the list of things we’re trying to do,” Dubner told me the other day. This time, the urge to provoke has driven him and Levitt off the rails and into a contrarian ditch.</p>
<p>Their breezy take on global warming unleashed a barrage of <a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/" target="_blank">highly detailed criticism</a> from <a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/superfreakingmeta/" target="_blank">economists</a> and <a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2009/10/superfreakonomics_global_cooli.php?id=135164" target="_blank">climate experts</a>, including a scientist who is misrepresented in the book.</p>
<p>Dubner wonders why everyone is so angry. In part, it’s because the book’s blithe remedies &#8212; “We could end this debate and be done with it, and move on to problems that are harder to solve,” Levitt <a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/oct/12/freakonomics-global-warming-statistics" target="_blank">told</a> the U.K. Guardian newspaper &#8212; are an insult to the thousands of scientists who have devoted their careers to this crisis.</p>
<p>One of the injured parties is <a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="http://dge.stanford.edu/labs/caldeiralab/" target="_blank">Ken Caldeira</a>, a climate scientist at Stanford University who is quoted (accurately) as saying that “we are being incredibly foolish emitting carbon dioxide.” Then Dubner and Levitt add this astonishing claim: “His research tells him that carbon dioxide is not the right villain in this fight.”</p>
<p><strong>Provocative, Untrue</strong></p>
<p>That’s provocative, but alas, it isn’t true. Caldeira, like the vast majority of climate scientists, believes cutting carbon dioxide and other greenhouse-gas emissions is our only real chance to avoid runaway climate change.</p>
<p>“Carbon dioxide is the right villain,” Caldeira wrote on his Web site in reply. He told <a onmouseover="return escape( popwSearchNews( this ))" href="http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Joe+Romm&amp;site=wnews&amp;client=wnews&amp;proxystylesheet=wnews&amp;output=xml_no_dtd&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;filter=p&amp;getfields=wnnis&amp;sort=date:D:S:d1">Joe Romm</a>, the respected climate blogger who <a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="../2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/" target="_blank">broke the story</a>, that he had objected to the “wrong villain” line but Dubner and Levitt didn’t correct it; instead, they added the “incredibly foolish” quote, a half step in the right direction. Caldeira gave the same account to me.</p>
<p>Levitt and Dubner do say that the book “overstates” Caldeira’s position. That’s a weasel word: The book claims the opposite of what Caldeira believes. Caldeira told me the book contains “many errors” in addition to the “major error” of misstating his scientific opinion on carbon dioxide’s role.</p>
<p>Why does this matter? Because there’s a titanic battle going on over whether and how to reduce carbon emissions, and this soon-to-be bestseller tries to convince people that we don’t need to do so. Dubner and Levitt trumpet their “wrong villain” line in their table of contents and <a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/14/watch-superfreakonomics-v_n_319181.html" target="_blank">promotional material</a>. On National Public Radio the other day, Levitt <a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113899727" target="_blank">said</a>, “The real problem isn’t that there’s too much carbon in the air.”</p>
<p><strong>Multiple Villains</strong></p>
<p>“SuperFreakonomics” never identifies the “right villain,” so I called Dubner and asked. “I don’t think anybody knows for sure,” he told me. Then he acknowledged that the chapter’s most newsworthy claim “could have been better phrased, as ‘<em>carbon dioxide is not the only villain.</em>’ ”</p></blockquote>
<p>Note to self:  Wow!</p>
<blockquote><p>That’s a huge admission. No climate scientist believes carbon dioxide is the only villain: methane, nitrous oxide and other gases need to be reduced too. But that basic truth wouldn’t have drawn attention. It wouldn’t have given Levitt a bold contrarian line for NPR.</p>
<p>Dubner and Levitt acknowledge that the planet has warmed but pretend that cutting emissions is a hopelessly old-school response. “It’s not that we don’t know how to stop polluting the atmosphere,” they write. “We don’t want to stop.” They ignore the fact that U.S. emissions have <a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="http://www.earth-policy.org/index.php?/plan_b_updates/2009/update83" target="_blank">dropped 9 percent</a> since 2007 &#8212; not just because of the recession but also thanks to energy efficiency and cleaner fuels.</p>
<p><strong>Chance of Catastrophe</strong></p>
<p>They exaggerate the cost of climate action and underestimate the likelihood of runaway global warming, pretending that the “relatively small chance of worldwide catastrophe” isn’t worth getting bothered about.</p>
<p>They dismiss global warming as a “religion” and rehash the so-called “global cooling” scare of the 1970s, a favorite skeptic <a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/global_warming_contrarians/book-superfreakonomics.html" target="_blank">myth</a>. (A handful of scientists warned of a coming ice age, a false alarm in no way comparable to today’s scientific consensus on warming.)</p>
<p>They trumpet the “little-discussed fact” that the average global temperature has decreased in recent years. This is accurate according to one set of global data &#8212; the other shows an increase &#8212; but scientists say it proves nothing. Imagine the Dow climbing to 14,000, with a wobble to 13,950. That’s what global temperatures have done. Even with small fluctuations, this decade is by every measure the <a onmouseover="return escape( popwOpenWebSite( this ))" href="http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/" target="_blank">hottest</a> in recorded history. The second hottest is the 1990s. The third hottest is the 1980s. Get the picture? Levitt and Dubner don’t.</p>
<p><strong>Shooting Sulfur Dioxide</strong></p>
<p>Having downplayed the problem, they try to solve it with a set of silver-bullet technologies known as geoengineering. One would shoot millions of tons of sulfur dioxide 18 miles into the air to artificially cool the planet. This could work; it also could have dire unintended consequences.</p>
<p>Caldeira, who is researching the idea, argues that it can succeed only if we first reduce emissions. Otherwise, he says, geoengineering can’t begin to cope with the collateral damage, such as acidic oceans killing off shellfish.</p>
<p>Levitt and Dubner ignore his view and champion his work as a permanent substitute for emissions cuts. When I told Dubner that Caldeira doesn’t believe geoengineering can work without cutting emissions, he was baffled. “I don’t understand how that could be,” he said. In other words, the Freakonomics guys just flunked climate science.</p>
<p>(<a onmouseover="return escape( popwSearchNews( this ))" href="http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Eric+Pooley&amp;site=wnews&amp;client=wnews&amp;proxystylesheet=wnews&amp;output=xml_no_dtd&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;filter=p&amp;getfields=wnnis&amp;sort=date:D:S:d1">Eric Pooley</a>, a former managing editor of Fortune magazine who is writing a book about the politics of global warming, is a Bloomberg News columnist. The opinions expressed are his own.)</p></blockquote>
<p>The bottom line is that the story I broke was dead on.</p>
<p>And the Superfreaks still don&#8217;t get that the primary climatologist they spoke to completely disagrees with their primary thesis, which they continue to attribute to him.  Consider this October 18 <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6879251.ece"><em>Times</em> online excerpt</a> (whose subhead, actually claims &#8220;This time they claim that CO2 may be good&#8221;!), which ends:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is one thing for climate heavyweights such as Crutzen and Caldeira to endorse such a solution. But they are mere scientists. The real heavyweights in this fight are people like Gore.And what does he think of geoengineering?</p>
<p>“In a word,” Gore says, “I think it’s nuts.”</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>You may be interested to know that Gore spokesperson Kalee Kreider told me they didn&#8217;t interview Gore for the book nor was he given a chance to review the chapter prior to publication.</strong></p>
<p>The only remaining question for me is &#8212; Was it wrong for me to ask Caldeira for a quote like that?  My parents were award-winning journalists, and I certainly criticize journalists all the time.  So I put it to Pooley, and here is his full reply:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t think journalists should rough out quotes in advance for their sources. Some folks do it; I never have. I think your case is a little different, not because you&#8217;re a &#8216;blogger&#8217; and not a &#8216;journalist&#8217; (those distinctions are fading fast!) but because you&#8217;re an expert who was already having a conversation with Caldeira on this subject and could see that Dubner and Levitt had misrepresented his views.</p>
<p>That said, I think everyone&#8217;s rule needs to be, don&#8217;t put anything in an email that you wouldn&#8217;t want to see on the front page of the <em>Times</em>.  If you had emailed Caldeira and said, &#8220;It seems clear to me that they utterly misrepresented your work; if you agree and are willing to say so, I&#8217;d like to quote you on it,&#8221; then no one could say boo.</p></blockquote>
<p>Fair enough.  I wasn&#8217;t acting exactly as a journalist nor was I just acting as someone who was coming to this story cold.  I knew they had misrepresented Caldeira.  But Pooley&#8217;s phrasing is obviously what I should have written in retrospect &#8212; even with my dual role as an expert and a blogger.</p>
<p>I am very glad that I did go back and explicitly ask Caldeira if I could use the quote he did give me.  I think that is good journalism, although as I say only about half of the reporters I deal with do that.  Had Dubner done that, he could have avoided some of this, but then he wouldn&#8217;t have had the catchphrase he wanted for the book and the Table of Contents and the publicity.</p>
<p>The second bottom line:  This was an extremely special case whose circumstances I doubt will ever be repeated again in my life.  Given the circumstances, I don&#8217;t think I did anything wrong.  But in the future I will follow Pooley&#8217;s sound advice.</p>
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		<title>Error-riddled ‘Superfreakonomics’, Part 2:  Who else have Nathan Myhrvold and the Groupthinkers at Intellectual Ventures duped and confused?  Would you believe Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[UPDATE: For an even bigger shocker, read Myhrvold&#8217;s &#8220;rebuttal,&#8221; which actually endorses my main critique (!):  Nathan Myhrvold jumps the shark — and jumps ship on Levitt and Dubner (on their blog!) asserting: “Geoengineering is proposed only as a last resort to try to reduce or cope with the even greater harms of global warming! [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>UPDATE: For an even bigger shocker, read Myhrvold&#8217;s &#8220;rebuttal,&#8221; which actually endorses my main critique (!):  <a title="Permanent Link to Nathan Myhrvold jumps the shark — and jumps ship on Levitt and Dubner (on their blog!) asserting:  “Geoengineering is proposed only as a last resort to try to reduce or cope with the even greater harms of global warming! … The point of the chapter in SuperFreakonomics is that geoengineering might be good insurance in case we don’t get global warming under control.”  Did he even read the book?" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/20/nathan-myhrvold-levitt-and-dubner-geoengineering-superfreakonomics/">Nathan Myhrvold jumps the shark — and jumps ship on Levitt and Dubner (on their blog!) asserting: “Geoengineering is proposed only as a last resort to try to reduce or cope with the even greater harms of global warming! … The point of the chapter in SuperFreakonomics is that geoengineering might be good insurance in case we don’t get global warming under control.” Did he even read the book?</a></em></p>
<p>This post will shock you.</p>
<p>The sheer illogic and “patent nonsense” of the new book <em>Superfreakonomics</em> discussed in <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/">Part 1</a> is just the tip of the iceberg.  What&#8217;s most worrisome is 1) who exactly has been peddling much of the nonsense and illogic to the authors &#8212; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Myhrvold">Nathan Myhrvold</a>, the former CTO of Microsoft &#8212; and 2) who else may have been persuaded by his bullshit.  The Myrhvold connection deserves special focus because it may help explain three puzzling things:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why does Bill Gates&#8217; Foundation mostly ignore global warming?  (see <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/09/bill-gates-foundation-warren-buffet-sustainable-development-global-warming/">here</a>)</li>
<li>Why is Warren Buffett so wrong &#8212; and outspoken &#8212; about cap and trade? (see <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/07/14/why-warren-buffett-is-wrong-about-cap-and-trade/">here</a>)</li>
<li>Why did Gates and Buffett visit the Athabasca tar sands &#8212; the biggest global warming crime ever &#8212; to satisfy “their own curiosity” but also “with investment in mind”? (see <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/24/gates-and-buffet-to-invest-in-tar-sands-and-spawn-more-two-headed-fish/">here</a>).</li>
</ul>
<p>According to the Superfreaks, <strong>Gates and Buffett went to the visit the tar sands (and other energy producers) with Myrhvold</strong>, giving him plenty of time to spread his misinformation to them.  Moreover, the idea Myrhvold came away is simply stunning.</p>
<p>And yes, one always needs the caveat, &#8220;according to Levitt and Dubner,&#8221; because their reporting skills are so dreadful &#8212; they shoehorn everything they hear into whatever contrarian view they had decided to adopt.  You shouldn&#8217;t take anything they say at face value.  As we&#8217;ve seen, the primary climatologist the book relies on, Ken Caldeira, says “<a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/">it is an inaccurate portrayal of me</a>” and is “misleading” in “many” places.  But I have reason to believe Myrhvold was given a draft to comment on &#8212; and if so, he was a willing participant in the defamation of his own reputation and that of his company &#8220;Intellectual Ventures.&#8221;  Apparently, he really does push this piece of staggering illogic:</p>
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<blockquote><p>&#8220;If you believe that the scary stories could be true, or even possible, then you should also admit that relying only on reducing carbon-dioxide emissions is not a very good answer,&#8221; he says.  In other words:  it’s illogical to believe in a carbon-induced warming apocalypse and believe that such an apocalypse can be averted simply by curtailing new carbon emissions.  &#8220;The scary scenarios could occur even if we make Herculean efforts to reduce our emissions, in which case the only real answer is geo-engineering.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>As I said in Part 1, not only is it not illogical, but I suspect most of the world’s leading climate scientists believe that if you could curtail all new carbon emissions (including from deforestation) starting now (or even starting soon), you would indeed avoid apocaplyse.  In fact, as Caldeira makes clear, the reverse of Myrhvold&#8217;s final statement is true:  ONLY if we make Herculean efforts to reduce our emissions, could geo-engineering possibly contribute to the solution.</p>
<p>Note also that this certainty about something completely unproven (i.e. large-scale aerosol-based geo-engineering), comes from a guy who seriously questions the real science of human-caused climate change.  The Superfreaks describe their visit to IV this way:</p>
<blockquote><p>Everyone in the room agrees that the Earth has been getting warmer and they <strong>generally suspect</strong> that human activity has <strong>something </strong>to do with it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Good for them!  So they think <strong>maybe</strong> human emissions cause <strong>some </strong>of the warming, but that it&#8217;s illogical to believe Herculean efforts to reduce emissions can avoid catastrophe, while we can be certain that geo-engineering will work (if it&#8217;s needed of course).  How convenient.</p>
<p>As discussed in Part 1, however, absent the Herculean effort, geoengineering is all but hopeless and leads to <a title="Permanent Link to Exclusive:  Caldeira calls the vision of Lomborg’s Climate Consensus “a dystopic world out of a science fiction story”" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/10/12/2009/09/05/caldeira-delayer-lomborg-copenhagen-climate-consensus-geoengineering/">“a dystopic world out of a science fiction story”</a> as Caldeira described it to me.  Myhrvold and the <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">geniuses</span> groupthinkers at IV, however, dismiss all of the solutions:</p>
<blockquote><p>In the darkened conference room, Myhrvold cues up an overhead slide that summarizes IV&#8217;s views of the current slate of proposed global warming solutions.  The slide says:</p>
<ul>
<li>Too little</li>
<li>Too late</li>
<li>Too optimistic.</li>
</ul>
<p><em>Too little</em> means that typical conservation efforts simply won&#8217;t make much of a difference. &#8220;If you believe there is a problem worth solving,&#8221; Myhrvold says, &#8220;then these solutions won&#8217;t be enough to solve it.  <strong>Wind power and most other alternative energy things are cute, but they don&#8217;t scale to a sufficient degree. </strong> At this point, wind farms are a government subsidy scheme, fundamentally.&#8221;  What about the beloved Prius and other low-emissions vehicles?  &#8220;They&#8217;re great,&#8221; he says, &#8220;except that <strong>transportation is just not that big of a sector.&#8221;<br />
</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>[<em>Pause for laughter.  Then for weeping.</em>]</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m not making this up.  Go to the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060889578/ref=s9_simz_gw_s1_p14_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_s=center-2&amp;pf_rd_r=1X0VCZBKEECK030V3TK0&amp;pf_rd_t=101&amp;pf_rd_p=470938631&amp;pf_rd_i=507846">Amazon.com</a> page for the book, and put &#8220;summarizes&#8221; in the search engine.  This guy was the CTO at Microsoft, and IV &#8220;controls more than twenty thousand patents&#8221; and they just make up crap like this and tell it to really important people who apparently swallow eat it up like pudding.  Has nobody in the room ever Googled?  I can&#8217;t waste time debunking all of that crap, but how about this is from EPA:</p>
<p><img src="http://epa.gov/climatechange/emissions/images/ES7-7.gif" alt="Figure 2: 2006 CO2  Emissions from Fossil Fuel Combustion by Sector and Fuel Type.  This figure illustrates 2006 CO2 Emissions from the Fossil Fuel Combustion by Sector and Fuel Type using the data presented in Table 3-3. It is apparent that electricity generation, composed mostly of emissions from coal, and transportation, composed mostly of emissions from petroleum, are the largest contributors to CO2 emissions from fossil fuel combustion.  In addition, there is a pie chart that indicates that petroleum accounted for 43%, coal accounted for 37%, and natural gas accounted for 20% of emissions from fossil fuel combustion." width="426" height="424" /></p>
<p>Globally &#8220;<a href="http://www.iccr-international.org/foresight/docs/monitoring/Environment/CO2%20emissions%20of%20%20transport%20sector.pdf">Transport accounts for around a quarter of total CO2 emissions</a>.&#8221;  In fact, transport is the key sector, because reducing carbon emissions in electricity generation is so damn easy (see &#8220;<a id="destacado_4052" title="An introduction to the core climate solutions" href="../2008/10/22/an-introduction-to-the-core-climate-solutions/">An introduction to the core climate solutions</a>&#8220;).</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I call Myhrvold and his ilk, F.A.K.E.R.s — Famous “Authorities” whose Knowledge (of climate) is Extremely Rudimentary [Error-riddled?].  I can only conclude IV is filled with yes-men and -women who specialize in some bizarre form of contrarian groupthink, which in any other setting would be an oxymoron.</p>
<p>And, then we get this multi-whopper piece of nonsense:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Too optimistic</em>:  “A lot of the things that people say would be good things probably aren’t,” Myrhvold says.  As an example he points to solar power.  “The problem with solar cells is that they’re black, because they are designed to absorb light from the sun. But only about 12% gets turned into electricity, and the rest is reradiated as heat — which contributed to global warming.”</p></blockquote>
<p>As discussed in <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/">Part 1</a>, this may set the FAKER record for howlers in one paragraph and for most orders of magnitude error in a single global warming calculation.  But the crap goes on and on like a really bad case of dysentery:</p>
<blockquote><p>Although widespread conversion to solar power might seem appealing, the reality is tricky. The energy consumed by building the thousands of new solar plants necessary to replace coal-burning and other power plants would create a huge long-term &#8220;warming debt,&#8221; as Myhrvold calls it.  &#8220;<strong>Eventually, we have a great carbon-free energy infrastructure but only after making emissions and global warming worse every year until we&#8217;re done building out the solar plants, which could take 30 to 50 years.</strong>&#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>[<em>Pause to tighten vise around cranium so it does not explode.</em>]</p>
<p>No.  No.  No.  A thousand times no.</p>
<p>First off, the energy payback for building solar is currently only a few years and dropping steadily.  Second, the carbon payback or &#8220;warming debt&#8221; of every solution drops steadily over time as you reduce the carbon intensity of the overall energy system.  The point is that you do multiple solutions all at once, including a massive amount of energy efficiency, a massive amount of renewables (especially <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/14/concentrated-solar-thermal-power-a-core-climate-solution/">CSP</a>, which the FAKERs seem unaware of), and even fuel switching from coal to gas.  The U.S. could easily cut its CO2 emissions deepling in two decades while building out the most massive low carbon energy system.  Finally, of course, if we don&#8217;t build the low-carbon infrastructure, then we will be building carbon-producing infrastructure, which will generate even more staggeringly large amounts of carbon for Myhrvold&#8217;s dystopia.</p>
<p>But the Superfreaks think the FAKERs are geniuses:</p>
<blockquote><p>Intellectual Ventures is an invention company.  The lab, in addition to all the gear, is stocked with an elite assemblage of brainpower, scientists and puzzle solvers of every variety&#8230;.</p>
<p>Myhrvold played a variety of roles at Microsoft: futurist, strategist, founder of its research lab, and whisperer-in-chief to Bill Gates.  &#8220;I don&#8217;t know anyone I would say is smarter than Nathan,&#8221; Gates once observed&#8230;.</p>
<p>He is so polymathic as to make an everyday polymath tremble with shame.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>I&#8217;m going to it invent a new phrase for these FAKERs &#8212; idiotic savants.</strong></p>
<p>If this guy has Gates&#8217; ear, no wonder the Gates Foundation mostly ignores global warming.  And remember, Buffett is the other major contributor to the Gates Foundation.  It&#8217;s multi-billionaire Groupthink.</p>
<p>Now while the FAKERs are busy dissing all low-carbon technologies, which organizations as credible as the International Energy Agency, the National Academy of Sciences, the IPCC, and McKinsey say can be employed at scale and cost-effectively, their own solution is so risible even the media is starting to laugh at it.  The <em>Independent</em> <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/its-a-mad-mad-world-the-freakonomists-are-back-1801198.html">writes</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The answer that the geeks offer is an 18-mile-long rubber hose pumping liquefied  sulphur dioxide into the stratosphere. This, you might say, is where  freakonomics starts getting a bit above itself&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
<p>And they never acknowledge any of the major problems that I discussed in Part 1.  Ironically, even though the Superfreaks rely heavily on Caldeira as a scientist who supposedly supports their geo-engineering strategy and even though they point out early on that Caldeira &#8220;coined the phrase &#8216;ocean acidification,&#8221; the process by which the seas absorb so much carbon dioxide the corals and other shallow-water organisms are threatened,&#8221; Levitt and Dubner never mention it again, even though their geoengineering-only strategy would devastate the oceans for millennia (see &#8220;<a title="Permanent Link to Imagine a World without Fish:  Deadly ocean acidification — hard to deny, harder to geo-engineer, but not hard to stop — is subject of documentary" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/09/26/2009/09/02/a-sea-change-imagine-a-world-without-fish-ocean-acidification-film/">Imagine a World without Fish: Deadly ocean acidification — hard to deny, harder to geo-engineer, but not hard to stop — is subject of documentary</a>&#8220;).</p>
<p>As the UK&#8217;s <em>Guardian</em> <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/oct/12/freakonomics-global-warming-statistics">puts it</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>They profile Nathan Myhrvold, the former chief technology officer of Microsoft,  whose company, Intellectual Ventures, is exploring the possibility of pumping  large quantities of sulphur dioxide into the Earth&#8217;s stratosphere through an  18-mile-long hose, held up by helium balloons, at an initial cost of around  $20m. The chemical would reflect some of the sun&#8217;s rays back into space, cooling  the planet, exactly as happened following the massive 1991 eruption of Mount  Pinatubo, in the Philippines. <strong>The primary objection to this plan, as with other  &#8220;geoengineering&#8221; schemes, is that there&#8217;s no predicting the unknown negative  effects of meddling in such a complex natural system. And it&#8217;s strange, given  how much is made in both Freakonomics books of the law of unintended  consequences, that they don&#8217;t mention this in the context of Myhrvold&#8217;s plan.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>But the Superfreaks say its all settled science:</p>
<blockquote><p>First of all, would it work?</p>
<p>The scientific evidence says yes. It is basically a controlled mimicry of Mount Pinatubo&#8217;s eruption, whose cooling effects were exhaustively studied and remain unchallenged.</p></blockquote>
<p>Do these guys even have the most rudimentary notion of what &#8220;scientific evidence&#8221; is?  Here&#8217;s what Pinatubo did:</p>
<p><a href="http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/"><img src="http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif" alt="http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif" width="587" height="426" /></a></p>
<p>Yeah, it solved global warming.</p>
<p>The June 1991 eruption had a real, but very short-term impact.  We have no &#8220;scientific evidence&#8221; of what the medium-term or long-term impact would be of creating the equivalent of multiple simultaneous Pinatubos every year for decades and decades.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like saying 2 aspirins cured my headache, so now that the doctors say I have a malignant brain tumor, the scientific evidence proves I can take 2000 aspirins every day for the rest of my life and be cured.</p>
<p>As Caldeira says:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>If we keep emitting greenhouse gases with the intent of offsetting the global warming with ever increasing loadings of particles in the stratosphere, we will be heading to a planet with extremely high greenhouse gases and a thick stratospheric haze that we would need to main more-or-less indefinitely. This seems to be a dystopic world out of a science fiction story. </strong>First, we can assume the oceans have been heavily acidified with shellfish and corals largely a thing of the past. We can assume that ecosystems will be greatly affected by the high CO2 / low sunlight conditions — similar to what Earth experienced hundreds of millions years ago. The sunlight would likely be very diffuse — maybe good for portrait photography, but with unknown consequences for ecosystems.</p></blockquote>
<p>For more, see <a title="Permanent Link to Science on the Risks of Climate Engineering:  “Optimism about a geoengineered ‘easy way out’ should be tempered by examination of currently observed climate changes”" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/08/29/science-risks-of-climate-geo-engineering-hegerl-susan-solomon/"><em>Science</em> on the Risks of Climate Engineering: “Optimism about a geoengineered ‘easy way out’ should be tempered by examination of currently observed climate changes”</a> and <a title="Permanent Link to British coal industry flack pushes geo-engineering “ploy” to give politicians “viable reason to do nothing” about global warming.  Is that why Lomborg supports such a smoke-and-mirrors approach?" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/08/12/british-coal-industry-flack-pushes-geo-engineering-ploy-to-give-politicians-viable-reason-to-do-nothing-about-global-warming-is-that-why-lomborg-supports-such-a-smoke-and-mirrors-approach/">British coal industry flack pushes geo-engineering “ploy” to give politicians “viable reason to do nothing” about global warming. Is that why Lomborg supports such a smoke-and-mirrors approach?</a> which has an analysis by Robock I&#8217;ll repost at the end.</p>
<p>But first, let me end with one final Myhrvold shocker, which may explain the answer to the questions I posed at the start.  Where does he want to put the 18-mile-long hose to pump large quantities of sulphur dioxide into the Earth&#8217;s stratosphere?</p>
<blockquote><p>Myhrvold, in his recent travels, happened upon one potentially perfect site. Along with Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, he was taking a whirlwind <strong>educational</strong> tour of various energy producers&#8211;a nuclear plant, wind farm, and so on.  One of their destination was the Athabasca oilsands in northern Alberta, Canada.</p></blockquote>
<p>Memo to Superfreaks: <a title="Permanent Link to Memo to Obama:  CCS won’t make tar sands clean. Memo to all:  They ain’t “oil sands.”" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/02/18/memo-to-obama-ccs-wont-make-tar-sands-clean-memo-to-all-they-aint-oil-sands/">They ain’t “oil sands.”</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Billions of barrels of petroleum can be found there, but it&#8217;s heavy, mucky crude. Rather than lying in a liquid pool beneath the earth&#8217;s crust, it is mixed in, like molasses, with the surface dirt.  In Athabasca you don&#8217;t drill for oil; you mine it, scooping up gigantic shovels of Earth and then separating the oil from its waste components.</p>
<p>One of the most plentiful waste components of sulfur, which commands such a low price that the oil companies simply stockpile it. &#8220;There were big yellow mountains of it, like a hundred meters high by a thousand meters wide!&#8221; says Myhrvold. &#8220;And they stair-step them, like a Mexican pyramid. <strong>So you can put one little pumping facility up there, and with one corner of one of those sulfur Mountains, you control the whole global warming problem for the Northern Hemisphere.</strong>&#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>[<em>Pause to clean up gray matter now scattered all over the vise.</em>]</p>
<blockquote><p>It is interesting to think what might&#8217;ve happened if Myhrvold was around 100 years ago, when New York and other cities were choking on horse manure. One wonders if, while everyone else looked at the mountains of dung saw calamity, he might&#8217;ve seen opportunity.</p></blockquote>
<p>[<em>Pause to think fondly about Myhrvold being around 100 years ago and not today -- then start worrying about the various unintended catastrophes we'd be dealing with now as a result.</em>]</p>
<p>Lord knows how many people besides Gates and Buffett and Levitt and Dubner &#8212; and the hundreds of thousands of people who will read <em>Superfreakonomics</em> (currently #4 on Amazon&#8217;s sales ranking) &#8212; will be duped by Myhrvold et al.</p>
<p>Since the Superfreaks don&#8217;t report the work of any of the myriad climate scientists who have raised concerns about geo-engineering, since they have essentially adopted the exact same position as Bjorn Lomborg, let me end by reposting an outstanding response from RealClimate, “<a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=0CAcQFjAA&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.realclimate.org%2Findex.php%2Farchives%2F2009%2F08%2Fa-biased-economic-analysis-of-geoengineering%2F&amp;ei=0V_WSsz9JZLRlAe837GcCQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNHunIRe8RQwcyuPQJ9GPD7GcgmqyA&amp;sig2=ZTemTDC8JcuieS5mXiJ3hg">A biased economic analysis of geoengineering</a>” by <a href="http://www.envsci.rutgers.edu/%7Erobock/">Prof. Alan Robock</a>.  Robock gave the best talk I ever heard on geo-engineering (<a href="http://www.ametsoc.org/atmospolicy/81121ESSS.html">here</a>), and this post is an excellent primer with numerous links:</p>
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<blockquote><p>Bjorn Lomborg’s <a href="http://www.copenhagenconsensus.com/CCC%20Home%20Page.aspx">Climate Consensus Center</a> just released an un-refereed report on geoengineering, <a href="http://fixtheclimate.com/fileadmin/templates/page/scripts/downloadpdf.php?file=/uploads/tx_templavoila/AP_Climate_Engineering_Bickel_Lane_v.3.0.pdf"><em>An Analysis of Climate Engineering as a Response to Global Warming</em></a>, by J Eric Bickel and Lee Lane. The “consensus” in the title of Lomborg’s center is based on a meeting of 50 economists last year. The problem with allowing economists to decide the proper response of society to global warming is that they base their analysis only on their own quantifications of the costs and benefits of different strategies. In this report, discussed below, they simply omit the costs of many of the potential negative aspects of producing a stratospheric cloud to block out sunlight or cloud brightening, and come to the conclusion that these strategies have a 25-5000 to 1 benefit/cost ratio. That the second author works for the American Enterprise Institute, a lobbying group that has been a leading global warming denier, is not surprising, except that now they are in favor of a solution to a problem they have claimed for years does not exist.</p>
<p>Geoengineering has come a long way since <a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/06/geo-engineering-in-vogue/">first discussed here</a> three years ago. [Here I use the term “geoengineering” to refer to “solar radiation management” (SRM) and not to carbon capture and sequestration (called “air capture” in the report), a related topic with quite different issues.] In a <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327191.200-interview-america-turns-red-white-and-green.html"><em>New Scientist</em> interview</a>, John Holdren, President Obama’s science adviser, says geoengineering has to be examined as a possible response to global warming, but that we can make no such determination now. A two-day <a href="http://americasclimatechoices.org/geoengineering%20agenda.pdf">conference on geoengineering</a> organized by the U.S. National Academy of Sciences was held in June, 2009, with an opening talk by the President, Ralph Cicerone. The American Meteorological Society (AMS) has just issued a <a href="http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/2009geoengineeringclimate_amsstatement.html">policy statement</a> on geoengineering, which urges cautious consideration, more research, and appropriate restrictions. But all this attention comes with the message that we know little about the efficacy, costs, and problems associated with geoengineering suggestions, and that much more study is needed.</p>
<p>Bickel and Lane, however, do not hesitate to write a report that is rather biased in favor of geoengineering using SRM, by emphasizing the low cost and dismissing the many possible negative aspects. They use calculations with the Dynamic Integrated model of Climate and the Economy (DICE) economic model to make the paper seem scientific, but there are many inherent assumptions, and they up-front refuse to present their results in terms of ranges or error bars. Specific numbers in their conclusions make the results seem much more certain than they are. While they give lip service to possible negative consequences of geoengineering, they refuse to quantify them. Indeed, the purpose of new research is to do just that, but the tone of this report is to claim that cooling the planet will have overall benefits, which CAN be quantified. The conclusions and summary of the report imply much more certainty as to the net benefits of SRM than is really the case.</p>
<p>My main areas of agreement with this report are that global warming is an important, serious problem, that SRM with stratospheric aerosols or cloud brightening would not be expensive, and that we indeed need more research into geoengineering. The authors provide a balanced introduction to the issues of global warming and the possible types of geoengineering.</p>
<p>But Bickel and Lane ignore the effects of ocean acidification from continued CO2 emissions, dismissing this as a lost cause. Even without global warming, reducing CO2 emissions is needed to do the best we can to save the ocean. The costs of this continuing damage to the planet, which geoengineering will do nothing to address, are ignored in the analysis in this report. And without mitigation, SRM would need to be continued for hundreds of years. If it were stopped, by the loss of interest or means by society, the resulting rapid warming would be much more dangerous than the gradual warming we are now experiencing.</p>
<p>Bickel and Lane do not even mention several potential negative effects of SRM, including getting rid of blue skies, huge reductions in solar power from systems using direct solar radiation, or ruining terrestrial optical astronomy. They imply that SRM technologies will work perfectly, and ignore unknown unknowns. Not one cloud has ever been artificially brightened by injection of sea salt aerosols, yet this report claims to be able to quantify the benefits and the costs to society of cloud brightening.</p>
<p>They also imply that stratospheric geoengineering can be tested at a small scale, but this is not true. Small injections of SO2 into the stratosphere would actually produce small radiative forcing, and we would not be able to separate the effects from weather noise. The small volcanic eruptions of the past year (1.5 Tg SO2 from Kasatochi in 2008 and 1 Tg SO2 from Sarychev in 2009, as compared to 7 Tg SO2 from El Chichón in 1982 and 20 Tg SO2 from Pinatubo in 1991) have produced stratospheric clouds that can be well-observed, but we cannot detect any climate impacts. Only a large-scale stratospheric injection could produce measurable impacts. This means that the path they propose would lead directly to geoengineering, even just to test it, and then it would be much harder to stop, what with commercial interests in continuing (e.g., Star Wars, which has not even ever worked).</p>
<p>Bickel and Lane also ignore several seminal papers on geoengineering that present much more advanced scientific results than the older papers they cite. In particular, they ignore Tilmes et al. (2008), Robock et al. (2008), Rasch et al. (2008), and Jones et al. (2009).</p>
<p>With respect to ozone, they dismiss concerns about ozone depletion and enhanced UV by citing Wigley (2006) and Crutzen (2006), but ignore the results of Tilmes et al. (2008), who showed that the effects would prolong the ozone hole for decades and that deployment of stratospheric aerosols in a couple decades would not be safe as claimed here. Bickel and Lane assert, completely incorrectly, “On its face, though, it does not appear that the ozone issue would be likely to invalidate the concept of stratospheric aerosols.”</p>
<p>With respect to an Arctic-only scheme, they suggest in several places that it would be possible to control Arctic climate based on the results of Caldeira and Wood (2008) who artificially reduce sunlight in a polar cap in their model (the “yarmulke method”), whereas Robock et al. (2008) showed with a more realistic model that explicitly treats the distribution and transport of stratospheric aerosols, that the aerosols could not be confined to just the Arctic, and such a deployment strategy would affect the summer Asian monsoon, reducing precipitation over China and India. And Robock et al. (2008) give examples from past volcanic eruptions that illustrate this effect, such as the pattern of precipitation reduction after the 1991 Pinatubo eruption (Trenberth and Dai, 2007):</p></blockquote>
<p><img src="http://www.realclimate.org/images/trenberthdai07_fig3.jpg" alt="" width="90%" /></p>
<blockquote><p>With respect to cloud brightening, Bickel and Lane ignore the Jones et al. (2009) results that cloud brightening would mainly cool the oceans and not affect land temperature much, so that it is an imperfect method at best to counter global warming. Furthermore Jones et al. (2009) found that cloud brightening over the South Atlantic would produce severe drought over the Amazon, destroying the tropical forest.</p>
<p>They also ignore a huge class of ethical and world governance issues. Whose hand would be on the global thermostat? Who would trust military aircraft or a multi-national geoengineering company to have the interests of the people of the planet foremost?</p>
<p>They do not seem to realize that volcanic eruptions affect climate change because of sulfate aerosols produced from sulfur dioxide gas injections into the stratosphere, the same that is proposed for SRM, and not by larger ash particles that fall out quickly after and eruption and do not cause climate change.</p>
<p>They dismiss air capture (“air capture technologies do not appear as promising as solar radiation management from a technical or a cost perspective”) but ignore the important point that it would have few of the potential side effects of SRM. Air capture would just remove the cause of global warming in the first place, and the only side effects would be in the locations where the CO2 would be sequestered.</p>
<p>For some reason, they insist on using the wrong units for energy flux (W) instead of the correct units of W/m^2, and then mix them in the paper. I cannot understand why they choose to make it so confusing.</p>
<p>The potential negative consequences of stratospheric SRM were clearly laid out by <a href="http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/20Reasons.pdf">Robock (2008)</a> and updated by <a href="http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/GRLreview2.pdf">Robock et al. (2009)</a>, which still lists 17 reasons why geoengineering may be a bad idea. One of those important possible consequences, the threat to the water supply for agriculture and other human uses, has been emphasized in a recent <a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/rapidpdf/1178530.pdf"><em>Science</em> article</a> by Gabi Hegerl and Susan Solomon.</p>
<p><a href="http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/GRLreview2.pdf">Robock et al. (2009)</a> also lists some benefits from SRM, including increased plant productivity and an enhanced CO2 sink from vegetation that grows more when subject to diffuse radiation, as has been observed after every recent large volcanic eruption. But the quantification of these and other geoengineering benefits, as well as the negative aspects, awaits more research.</p>
<p>It may be that the benefits of geoengineering will outweigh the negative aspects, and that most of the problems can be dealt with, but the paper from Lomborg’s center ignores the <em>real consensus</em> among all responsible geoengineering researchers.  The <em>real consensus</em>, as expressed at the National Academy conference and in the AMS statement, is that mitigation needs to be our first and overwhelming response to global warming, and that whether geoengineering can even be considered as an emergency measure in the future should climate change become too dangerous is not now known. Policymakers will only be able to make such decisions after they see results from an intensive research program. Lomborg’s report should have stopped at the need for a research program, and not issued its flawed and premature conclusions.</p>
<p><small><strong>References:</strong></small></p>
<p><small>Jones, A., J. Haywood, and O. Boucher 2009:  Climate impacts of geoengineering marine stratocumulus clouds, <em>J. Geophys. Res.</em>, 114, D10106, doi:10.1029/2008JD011450.</small></p>
<p><small>Rasch, Philip J., Simone Tilmes, Richard P. Turco, Alan Robock, Luke Oman, Chih-Chieh (Jack) Chen, Georgiy L. Stenchikov, and Rolando R. Garcia, 2008: An overview of geoengineering of climate using stratospheric sulphate aerosols. <em>Phil. Trans. Royal Soc. A.</em>, 366, 4007-4037, doi:10.1098/rsta.2008.0131.</small></p>
<p><small>Robock, Alan, 2008: 20 reasons why geoengineering may be a bad idea. Bull. Atomic Scientists, 64, No. 2, 14-18, 59, doi:10.2968/064002006. <a href="http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/20Reasons.pdf">PDF file</a> <a href="http://www.thebulletin.org/web-edition/roundtables/has-the-time-come-geoengineering">Roundtable discussion of paper</a></small></p>
<p><small>Robock, Alan, Luke Oman, and Georgiy Stenchikov, 2008: Regional climate responses to geoengineering with tropical and Arctic SO2 injections. <em>J. Geophys. Res.</em>, 113, D16101, doi:10.1029/2008JD010050. <a href="http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/GRLreview2.pdf">PDF file</a></small></p>
<p><small>Robock, Alan, Allison B. Marquardt, Ben Kravitz, and Georgiy Stenchikov, 2009: The benefits, risks, and costs of stratospheric geoengineering. Submitted to <em>Geophys. Res. Lett.</em>, doi:10.1029/2009GL039209.  <a href="http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/GRLreview2.pdf">PDF file</a></small></p>
<p><small>Tilmes, S., R. Müller, and R. Salawitch, 2008:  The sensitivity of polar ozone depletion to proposed geoengineering schemes, <em>Science</em>, 320(5880), 1201-1204, doi:10.1126/science.1153966.</small></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><small>Trenberth, K. E., and A. Dai (2007), Effects of Mount Pinatubo volcanic eruption on the hydrological cycle as an analog of geoengineering, <em>Geophys. Res. Lett.</em>, 34, L15702, doi:10.1029/2007GL030524.</small></p></blockquote>
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